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"ZsaZsa" <reply@ng.org> wrote in message
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> "Gerry Carter" <gerrycarter@home.com> wrote in message
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> > "ZsaZsa" <reply@ng.org> wrote in message
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> > > "John Smith" <fatjohnny72@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > > > AlexF@cc1.bhc5.org wrote in message ...
> > >
> > > > >    If the customer had one too many, no.  But if the
> > > > >bartender saw that the customer was clearly drunk out
> > > > >of his mind, and yet served him another drink anyway,
> > > > >just because he wanted to make an extra buck, then
> > > > >yes, if I get hit by that drunk driver you can bet
> > > > >I'm suing both the drunk and the bar.
> > > >
> > > > How absurd.  Bartenders shouldn't be under any obligation to define
> and
> > > > enforce consumption limits on their customers.  They sell a fully
> legal
> > > > product to people who request it and can stop requesting it at any
> time.
> > > > The consequences of this exchange rest with the buyer.  End of
story.
> > >
> > > On the contrary, in Ontario people who serve booze, and those who sell
> it
> > in
> > > retail establishments , are required to deny service to people who are
> > > obviously drunk.  The license holder of an establishment can lose
> his/her
> > > liquor license for "permitting drunkeness", that is allowing drunks to
> > > remain in said establishment.  This is as much to protect other
patrons
> > > and the public as the drunk.
> >
> > By the time someone is obviously drunk, they are already to drunk to
drive
> > etc.  How does allowing them to get more drunk remove from them the
> personal
> > responsibility for their own inebriation?
>
> I'm afraid I don't understand the question.
>
It's very simple. It's about not passing the blame to someone else. Someone
has to take responsibility for our actions, and in most cases the best
person to take the blame is yourself.

I recognize that it has become popular to pass-off the blame for one's own
behavior on someone else, but if everyone passes the buck, the problem never
get addressed.  If you choose to get drunk and drive, no one should really
take the blame for the consequences but yourself, otherwise it gives license
to bad behavior, based on the fact than no one else stopped you.