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JF Mezei wrote:

> On 13-01-31 09:00, Some Guy wrote:
>
> > Do you doubt that GardaLey can also do that?
>
> For all I know, GardaLey can simply be monitory the list of peers that
> the tracker feeds it.  Yes, this means it can see % of file that a peer
> currently has. And yes, it can likely see whether a peer is accepting
> connections or if it is "chocked".
>
> If GardaLey advertises itself as being unchocked and accepting
> connections, then downloaders can connect to it. Will GardaLey accept
> the connection ? Will it actually upload content ? Does it log how much
> content is uploaded to each pear ?
>
> More importantly, does GardaLey actually request content from peers who
> accept connections ? And does it download 100% of a file from 1 peer to
> prove that peer has uploaded 100% ?
>
> Since software can fake how much of a file it has, does the mere fact
> that you see an IP with 100% of file in a tracker PROVE that this IP
> address actually has 100% of the file ?
>
> I suspect GardaLey itself fakes the percentage of the file that it has
> in order to not show it has 100% (otherwise, it woudln't be able to
> download from unsuspecting folks).
>
> > For one thing, someone at Canipre would be incredibly stupid to lie to
> > the court about how their software operates.
>
> This isnt a question of liying. It is a question that their affidavit
> omitted much information in order to (possibly) not show that their
> collection technique is flawed and does not represent proof of download.
>
> again, seeing a person in a bar/tracker is no proof that that person
> performed an illegal act such as hiring a hooker.
>
> > And another reason why their software *probably* doesn't fake the data
> > is because the real data is easily obtainable without needing to fake
> > it.
>
> Finding over 4000 IP addresses who downloaded unknown/undesirable movies
> in a period of a month ?
>
> sorry, but before an ISP hands over the information, that ISP should
> make sure that the data wasn't generated randomly and get some sort of
> evidence some proper software was REALLY used to perform this
> investigation. Perhps even ask the Canipre guy to demostrate to the
> judge how GardaLey actually works.
>
> If you don't make sure that the data was aceuired intelligently, then
> nothing prevents you or me from generating some random list of IPs and
> going after ISPs.
>
> > Poisoning a torrent has immediate effect in accomplishing relief against
> > financial loss without the costs associated with court proceedings.
>
> You can't poison an existing torrent because there are checksums in each
> part.  But you can create a new torrent that pretends to be "Hurt
> Locker" but ends up being some gay movie or just 2 hours of ads for the
> Shamwow guy.
>
> > I continue to note that you absolutely do not in any way want to talk
> > about the Tek Savvy side of this equation - the reliability or accuracy
> > of their IP logs and how (or if) that issue would come up in court.
>
> From a DSL point of view, they should have a fair degree of accuracy,
> although they did make 42 errors in their initial pass. Every PPPoE ogin
> is logged and authemticated to a specific customer. However, they do not
> know if that PPPoE was made from the customer's home or not. (But bell
> would know).

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