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Re: So how is the Voltage Pictures / Tek Savvy copyright lawsuit progressing?

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From: Some Guy
Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2013 15:54
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JF Mezei wrote:
 
> For all I know, GardaLey can simply be monitory the list of peers
> that the tracker feeds it.  Yes, this means it can see % of file
> that a peer currently has. And yes, it can likely see whether a
> peer is accepting connections or if it is "chocked".

All of that is sufficient to establish that every IP participating in
that torrent is violating the rights of the owner of the work - as long
as the torrent does indeed constitute a copy of the work.

At that point, it doesn't matter how much of the work is uploaded to or
downloaded from any particular IP that is participating in the torrent.
 
> Finding over 4000 IP addresses who downloaded unknown/undesirable
> movies in a period of a month ?

The system is broken and needs to be fixed.

When a rights-holder finds a copy of their work on a file-locker, they
request that the work be taken down, and if it's taken down then that's
the end of the situation.

When a rights-holder finds a copy of their work on an active torrent,
they should be able to:

a) contacting the individual ISP's in question in "real time" and give
them their evidence and details of the torrent and compel the ISP to
disrupt / throttle / deactivate the internet connection of the customer
for a short period of time (6 to 24 hours) and send an e-mail to
what-ever e-mail address the ISP has on file for that customer
explaining what is going on and why, and that their connection will be
restored after the time-period is over, and that no further action will
be taken, and their identity will not be revealed to the rights-holder.

OR

b) do no real-time intervention, but impliment a "6-strikes" policy
against the customer (as as been implimented in the US).  Again, their
identity will not be revealed to the rights holder.

> > Poisoning a torrent has immediate effect in accomplishing relief
> > against financial loss without the costs associated with court
> > proceedings.
> 
> You can't poison an existing torrent because there are checksums
> in each part.

I was under the impression that the individual parts or segments can be
composed of random data, and be constructed such that they have the
desired checksum, and these parts could be injected into the torrent by
the agent (Canipre).
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