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-- [ From: Mark Olson * EMC.Ver #3.0 ] --


There was actually a fair amount of discussion regarding this on the
CIPSNET mailing list at the time CIPS was establishing its' Internet
host.

First, I should point out that there are others who were much closer to
these decisions than I was, and who I would invite to to add their
corrections or omissions to my response.

My recollection of the decision process, in summary, was that with CIPS
being a national, Canadian non-commercial enterprise the .CA domain was
most appropriate and also the most cost effective.  At the time, .COM
and .ORG were supposed to be only for US based organizations, however
that designation has since been, for all practical purposes, lost.

Registering domains for the provinces has also already been considered.
Having established CIPS.CA, we could establish bc.cips.ca, ab.cips.ca,
sk.cips.ca, etc. any time we want to, and entirely under our own
control.  The main reason it has not been done is that creating a
separate directory for each provincial body (e.g. www.cips.ca/Alberta)
accomplishes the same thing, is simpler to establish and maintain, and
provides the desired message that the provincial ISP efforts are an
integral part of the national effort.

The problem with creating domains for each provincial body under the
provincial domains (e.g. cips.bc.ca, cips.ab.ca, cips.sk.ca) would be
that it would imply that the professional programs run independently
within each province, which is not a message that any of the parties
involved would wish to encourage.

Mark Olson, I.S.P.



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Date: Saturday, 13-Feb-99 10:52 AM

From: James Crooks             \ Internet:    (jcrooks@vse.ca)
To:   CIPS-L@hermes.csd.unb.ca \ Internet:    (cips-l@hermes.csd.unb.ca)

Subject: Re: CIPS trademark and domains

The only other critical domain names (so far) are cips.net ( registered
to Consorzio Internet Providers Della Sardegna in Italy), cips.org
(registered to The Chartered Institute of Purchasing & Supply in the UK)
and of course cips.com (registered to Computer Integrated Phone
Solutions Corp. in the MD USA - phone systems for healthcare).

You can check out ownership of a US registered domain name via
http://www.internic.net/ and a Canadian domain name via
http://www.cdnnet.ca/search/index.html.

The major worry is if one of the alternate names is an XXX rated site -
or if it's taken by a legitimate business now, they may allow it to
lapse and some less than upright enterprise picks up the name... Mostly
an image thing and something that doesn't appear to be a worry for our
CIPS at the moment for .com, .net and .org...

We might consider registering our provincial orginizations under
cips.bc.ca, cips.ab.ca, cips.sk.ca, etc., there currently is no charge
for registration under .ca...

/jc

Ken Metcalfe wrote:

> I am glad to see the concern expressed in protecting our trade marks -
CIPS.
>
> It was expressed by one member that CIPS should have registered the
domain cips.com.  I too think that it is sad that when those who
> registered CIPS.CA they did not register CIPS.COM.  But I guess we are
all prone to missing things even when it is areas of our own
> expertise.
>
> No sense crying over "spilt milk" as it were or worrying about some
conspiracy.  Better that we learn and try not to make the same
> mistake again.
>
> This then baits the question - Are there any other domain names (i.e.
CIPS.xx) which we should consider registering?  I am not an
> Internet guru and thought that there are those here who can provide
valuable comment.  So thanks in advance.
>
> Ken Metcalfe, I.S.P.
> CIPS National Secretary/Treasurer

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