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Letters in the Name function
#26
Author: Willse
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 00:00
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Consider the function (whose domain is members of the set Z*, the set of
nonnegative integers) defined by

LiN(x)={letters in the formal English name of x}

For example, LiN(8)=5, because "eight" has five letters.

LiN(x) for the first few values of {0,1,2,...} are
{4,3,3,5,4,4,3,5,5,4,3...}.

Prove (or disprove) that, regardless of the initial value of x,

{lim n->+oo}[a_n=LiN(x) if n=1, a_n=LiN(a_(n-1)) if n>1]=4

Travis J. Willse
sal-crumb@geocities.com
Re: Letters in the Name function
#28
Author: Jim Dars
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 00:00
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Hi Travis,

With little set theory knowledge I look at

{lim n->+oo}[a_n=3DLiN(x) if n=3D1, a_n=3DLiN(a_(n-1)) if n>1]=3D4


and wonder if "a_n" conveys a meaning I'm not aware of --- would you =
define it? --- Even if this is a stupid request.

Best wishes, Jim
Willse wrote in message <#mAdbiEF$GA.234@cpmsnbbsa05>...
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>
>Consider the function (whose domain is members of the set Z*, the set =
of
>nonnegative integers) defined by
>
>LiN(x)=3D{letters in the formal English name of x}
>
>For example, LiN(8)=3D5, because "eight" has five letters.
>
>LiN(x) for the first few values of {0,1,2,...} are
>{4,3,3,5,4,4,3,5,5,4,3...}.
>
>Prove (or disprove) that, regardless of the initial value of x,
>
>{lim n->+oo}[a_n=3DLiN(x) if n=3D1, a_n=3DLiN(a_(n-1)) if n>1]=3D4
>
>Travis J. Willse
>sal-crumb@geocities.com
>
>
>

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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D4>Hi =
Travis,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D4></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D4>With little set theory =
knowledge I look=20
at</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D4></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>{lim n-&gt;+oo}[a_n=3DLiN(x) if n=3D1, a_n=3DLiN(a_(n-1)) if=20
n&gt;1]=3D4<BR>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D4>and wonder if =
&quot;a_n&quot; conveys a=20
meaning I'm not aware of --- would you define it? --- Even if this is a =
stupid=20
request.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D4>Best wishes, =
Jim</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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der the=20
function (whose domain is members of the set Z*, the set =
of<BR>&gt;nonnegative=20
integers) defined by<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;LiN(x)=3D{letters in the formal =
English name=20
of x}<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;For example, LiN(8)=3D5, because &quot;eight&quot; =
has five=20
letters.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;LiN(x) for the first few values of {0,1,2,...}=20
are<BR>&gt;{4,3,3,5,4,4,3,5,5,4,3...}.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Prove (or =
disprove) that,=20
regardless of the initial value of x,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;{lim =
n-&gt;+oo}[a_n=3DLiN(x)=20
if n=3D1, a_n=3DLiN(a_(n-1)) if n&gt;1]=3D4<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Travis J. =
Willse<BR>&gt;<A=20
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Re: Letters in the Name function
#31
Author: deal4428
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 00:00
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so x a member of *Z,    x=five hundred fifty three billion nine hundred
seventy seven million seven hundred seventy seven thousand seven hundred
fifty seven
now LiN(x)
now what  is a_n
and what is going to limit?

----- Original Message -----
From: Willse <gbtt@email.msn.com>
Newsgroups: can.rsc.mathsci
Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 7:27 PM
Subject: Letters in the Name function


> All-
>
> Consider the function (whose domain is members of the set Z*, the set of
> nonnegative integers) defined by
>
> LiN(x)={letters in the formal English name of x}
>
> For example, LiN(8)=5, because "eight" has five letters.
>
> LiN(x) for the first few values of {0,1,2,...} are
> {4,3,3,5,4,4,3,5,5,4,3...}.
>
> Prove (or disprove) that, regardless of the initial value of x,
>
> {lim n->+oo}[a_n=LiN(x) if n=1, a_n=LiN(a_(n-1)) if n>1]=4
>
> Travis J. Willse
> sal-crumb@geocities.com
>
>
>
Willse <gbtt@email.msn.com> wrote in message
news:#mAdbiEF$GA.234@cpmsnbbsa05...
> All-
>
> Consider the function (whose domain is members of the set Z*, the set of
> nonnegative integers) defined by
>
> LiN(x)={letters in the formal English name of x}
>
> For example, LiN(8)=5, because "eight" has five letters.
>
> LiN(x) for the first few values of {0,1,2,...} are
> {4,3,3,5,4,4,3,5,5,4,3...}.
>
> Prove (or disprove) that, regardless of the initial value of x,
>
> {lim n->+oo}[a_n=LiN(x) if n=1, a_n=LiN(a_(n-1)) if n>1]=4
>
> Travis J. Willse
> sal-crumb@geocities.com
>
>
>
Re: Letters in the Name function
#32
Author: Willse
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 00:00
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deal4428-

> so x a member of *Z,    x=five hundred fifty three billion nine hundred
> seventy seven million seven hundred seventy seven thousand seven hundred
> fifty seven
> now LiN(x)

a_1=LiN(553 977 777 757)=114
a_2=LiN(LiN(553 977 777 757))=LiN(114)=18
a_3=LiN(LiN(LiN(553 977 777 757)))=LiN(LiN(114))=LiN(18)=8
a_4=LiN(LiN(LiN(LiN(553 977 777
757))))=LiN(LiN(LiN(114)))=LiN(LiN(18))=LiN(8)=5
a_5=LiN(LiN(LiN(LiN(LiN(553 977 777
757)))))=LiN(LiN(LiN(LiN(114))))=LiN(LiN(LiN(18)))=Lin(LiN(8))=LiN(5)=4
a_n=LiN(4)=4 (n>5)

Travis J. Willse
sal-crumb@geocities.com


> now what  is a_n
> and what is going to limit?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Willse <gbtt@email.msn.com>
> Newsgroups: can.rsc.mathsci
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 7:27 PM
> Subject: Letters in the Name function
>
>
> > All-
> >
> > Consider the function (whose domain is members of the set Z*, the set of
> > nonnegative integers) defined by
> >
> > LiN(x)={letters in the formal English name of x}
> >
> > For example, LiN(8)=5, because "eight" has five letters.
> >
> > LiN(x) for the first few values of {0,1,2,...} are
> > {4,3,3,5,4,4,3,5,5,4,3...}.
> >
> > Prove (or disprove) that, regardless of the initial value of x,
> >
> > {lim n->+oo}[a_n=LiN(x) if n=1, a_n=LiN(a_(n-1)) if n>1]=4
> >
> > Travis J. Willse
> > sal-crumb@geocities.com
> >
> >
> >
> Willse <gbtt@email.msn.com> wrote in message
> news:#mAdbiEF$GA.234@cpmsnbbsa05...
> > All-
> >
> > Consider the function (whose domain is members of the set Z*, the set of
> > nonnegative integers) defined by
> >
> > LiN(x)={letters in the formal English name of x}
> >
> > For example, LiN(8)=5, because "eight" has five letters.
> >
> > LiN(x) for the first few values of {0,1,2,...} are
> > {4,3,3,5,4,4,3,5,5,4,3...}.
> >
> > Prove (or disprove) that, regardless of the initial value of x,
> >
> > {lim n->+oo}[a_n=LiN(x) if n=1, a_n=LiN(a_(n-1)) if n>1]=4
> >
> > Travis J. Willse
> > sal-crumb@geocities.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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