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In article <3f70c235$1@news.comindico.com.au>, fake@address.com says...
> 
> "Peter" <turned.up@the.side> wrote in message
> news:MPG.19db60121d80de6698a0b3@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > In article <3f703235$0$28119$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>,
> >
> > Troy was in the same regiment, somewhat later than me. We discovered we
> had
> > a few mutual friends and enemies.
> 
> This isssue has been discussed AND is resolved .. Peter Mackey (Mackay)
> served in the University of Queensland Regiment .. he was never in the ARMY
> as we regulars (ex and current) understand it, simply a weekend schoolie
> warrior . he may well have attained the rank of sergeant although those
> ranks are pretty worthless as their not indicative of hard work and
> achiement .. merely showing up regularly.

LOL! If only that were true - I would have been drawing a sergeant's pay 
after the first year.
 
> This fact is not in question .. what appears to be in question here is
> whether or not the reserves is considered "being in the army" ..  regulars
> say it isn't, reservists say it is ...    it's opinion and as such there is
> no right or wrong answer.

What you're struggling to say is that part-time soldiers are not full-time 
soldiers. The reality is that in both World Wars the Australian soldiers 
doing the fighting were reserves and the regular army stayed home.

http://www.chapter-one.com/vc/award.asp?vc=802 gives details of one such 
citizen soldier. There were many more like him, and I trust still are in 
today's Army, both Regular and Reserve.

But I'm not going to bother defending the history and current role of 
reserve forces. I don't think there is any need.

But perhaps, to be consistent, you might like to agree that according to 
your own argument, Peter Lucas wasn't a soldier during his time with QUR 
and other Reserve units. And that he, like me, is now a civilian.

I've sertainly never claimed to have been a Regular soldier. I've spent 
time with Reg units on exercise and done Regular Army courses to gain 
qualifications I needed, but that's par for the course, especially nowadays 
where units can be a mix of Regular and Reserve. QUR. for example, is a 
subunit of the Royal Military College, and QUR officers have always worn 
CSC puggarees.
 
> AFAIAC Peter Mackey/Mackay did NOT serve as I don't consider reservists as
> having done anything more than play soldier every second weekend and 2 weeks
> a year.  This opinion is clearly not shared by Peter and other reservists.
> Opinions are like arseholes .. everyone has one.

The Chief of the Army and the Chief of the Defence Force have opinions that 
differ from yours. Shall I quote from their various speeches, all available 
through Defence websites?