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In <4utf7c$10t@lori.albany.net> maz@magik.albany.net (Matthew Zahorik)
wrote:
>Daniel A. Norton (danorton@albany.net) wrote:
>
>: This isn't a list between techies at the various companies -- it's
>: between the _Presidents_.
>
>Wrong.
>
>Do a who albany-isp before making accusations.

I wasn't making an accusation, Matt, I was quoting you:

In <Pine.SUN.3.93.960804003032.10734R-100000@magik.albany.net> Matthew
Zahorik <maz@albany.net> wrote:
>It's a private list..  I leave it open for vital matters between
>presidents of the various local ISPs, with no noise.

In <4utf7c$10t@lori.albany.net> maz@magik.albany.net (Matthew Zahorik)
wrote:
>It's mostly between the operational staff of the different orginizations.

Now, you are contradicting yourself, Matt.

>Exactly.  And you're using bombast and hysteria, along with false
>allusions to collusionary activities.

No, Matt, your own statements are doing all of the work for me.

>If we did something to collude to try to do something, like
>raising prices, what would prevent our customers from migrating to an
>out-of-the-area provider?

So local ISPs can collude up to the $2-3/hr ceiling of national
providers?

>I created the list for that purpose.  To make it *easy* for albany area
>ISP to communicate, and cooperate in ways that are beneficial to 
>customers.  (fairs, regional peering, ways to improve systems, how to
>combat abuse, streamline accounting, etc)

OK, Matt, I'll take your word for it.  Your word is good enough for me.
But answer me this: Why should this stuff be private??

>A good number of these things, if we had to be sensitive to how every word
>could be interpeted and perceived by the general public, would be left
>unsaid.

Boy, wouldn't business be easier if you didn't have to deal with
_customers_!

>Conspiracy has the novel attribute of being nearly impossible to disprove
>and is oft used to shore up an argument that lacks substance and/or
>reasonable cause.

Oh, it's very easy to disprove, Matt.  What's curious is your
unwillingness to do so.

--
Daniel A. Norton
danorton@albany.net