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Geoff Gass <glg@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>Geoff Gass <glg@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>>>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>Geoff Gass <glg@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>>>>>Geoff Gass <glg@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>>>>>>tert in seattle <tert@ftupet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>smr wrote:
>>>>>>>>On 5/30/2013 2:42 PM, Cydrome Leader wrote:

>>>>>>>>>how often does this happen though (a fed style smackdown)?

>>>>>>>>Technically daily, because it's only due to the Feds saying so
>>>>>>>>that AT&T lets us into their colos, provides last mile at tariff
>>>>>>>>instead of at a huge profit for them... we do ask the FCC to
>>>>>>>>intervene if they're being dicks a few times a year. It's more
>>>>>>>>of a quiet regulatory enforcement thing than it is what I think
>>>>>>>>you're picturing, a huge, "Break up Ma Bell!" type of government
>>>>>>>>intervention.

>>>>>>>did all the exploded pieces of Ma Bell gravitate back together in
>>>>>>>the end?

>>>>>>not completely, verizon and centurylink own large pieces of territory
>>>>>>and there's a couple of smaller ones like fairpoint around as well,
>>>>>>but at&t is back to pretty damned big.

>>>>>I forgot a major piece, post breakup, at&t still had the equipment
>>>>>manufacturing and labs (western electric and bell labs).  that stuff
>>>>>is all different companies like Alcatel-Lucent and Avaya now.

>>>>AT&T is SBC renamed. SBC bought what had been AT&T Long Lines.

>>>so?  I know the lineage, it's not relevant to tert's question.

>>Well, whatever you happened to know didn't entirely make it into your
>>followup, like the particularly important bit that today's AT&T itself
>>is a renamed, partly-merged Baby Bell, and not the successor to the
>>pre-divestiture corporate conglomerate.

>did you even read tert's question?

Why, yes, Geoff. It was fairly straightforward. Your answer, in part,
"but at&t is back to pretty damned big" was misleading, given that
post-divestiture AT&T didn't make those significant acquisitions,
one of the Baby Bell's did, and what remained of post-divestiture AT&T
after spinning off Western Electric and Bell Labs was acquired by
a Baby Bell.

>>I didn't know you were moderator of the day. Next time I think something
>>important was missed, I'll make sure to clear it with you to avoid stomping
>>all over your enormous ego.

>why haven't you renamed the thread yet, ayden?

I didn't have your permission to do so.