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Geoff Gass <glg@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>Geoff Gass <glg@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>>>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>Geoff Gass <glg@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>>>>>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Geoff Gass <glg@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>Geoff Gass <glg@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>tert in seattle <tert@ftupet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>smr wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>On 5/30/2013 2:42 PM, Cydrome Leader wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>how often does this happen though (a fed style smackdown)?

>>>>>>>>>>Technically daily, because it's only due to the Feds saying so
>>>>>>>>>>that AT&T lets us into their colos, provides last mile at tariff
>>>>>>>>>>instead of at a huge profit for them... we do ask the FCC to
>>>>>>>>>>intervene if they're being dicks a few times a year. It's more
>>>>>>>>>>of a quiet regulatory enforcement thing than it is what I think
>>>>>>>>>>you're picturing, a huge, "Break up Ma Bell!" type of government
>>>>>>>>>>intervention.

>>>>>>>>>did all the exploded pieces of Ma Bell gravitate back together in
>>>>>>>>>the end?

>>>>>>>>not completely, verizon and centurylink own large pieces of territory
>>>>>>>>and there's a couple of smaller ones like fairpoint around as well,
>>>>>>>>but at&t is back to pretty damned big.

>>>>>>>I forgot a major piece, post breakup, at&t still had the equipment
>>>>>>>manufacturing and labs (western electric and bell labs).  that stuff
>>>>>>>is all different companies like Alcatel-Lucent and Avaya now.

>>>>>>AT&T is SBC renamed. SBC bought what had been AT&T Long Lines.

>>>>>so?  I know the lineage, it's not relevant to tert's question.

>>>>Well, whatever you happened to know didn't entirely make it into your
>>>>followup, like the particularly important bit that today's AT&T itself
>>>>is a renamed, partly-merged Baby Bell, and not the successor to the
>>>>pre-divestiture corporate conglomerate.

>>>did you even read tert's question?

>>Why, yes, Geoff. It was fairly straightforward. Your answer, in part,
>>"but at&t is back to pretty damned big" was misleading, given that
>>post-divestiture AT&T didn't make those significant acquisitions,
>>one of the Baby Bell's did, and what remained of post-divestiture AT&T
>>after spinning off Western Electric and Bell Labs was acquired by
>>a Baby Bell.

>how do you get through your day being so pedantic?  how does your head not
>explode?

I had no idea that adding a critical and factual point to your summary
was pedantic, especially given that your statement was misleading.

Boy oh boy, you've really got your feathers all ruffled.

Believe me, if I knew that saying "SBC is AT&T" in a thread was all it took
for you to get your panties in a bunch and humiliate yourself in this fashion,
I would have used it years ago.