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Article #46916Re: technical support - how to establish it
From: Karl Denninger
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 00:00
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 1995 00:00
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In article <3tpf64$gmh@news1.mcs.net>, Phil N. Schuman <pschuman@interserv.com> wrote: >Bob - we'll never win - Karl is ALWAYS right - > >I sent an Email trying to tell him that his news server was not functioning - >and got back a "go away and don't bother me" message. You got back a redirect to the proper procedure, which you have been informed of before both by automatic responder and otherwise. You decided to ignore that procedure, and then decided to demand a fix personally from me. That would be fine if I was the only MCSNet employee. But I'm not. Not even close. FACT IS, I am not the person who carries the pager, nor the one who has the responsibility to come in on a weekend to push a reset button. But there *are* people who DO have that job, and if you follow procedure, you'll get a FAST AND EFFICIENT response. >then, on the other hand, I may ask a question about ISDN - >and I get an immediate response. Right. That's part of my job. If you work with the procedures you have been made aware of you will get an appropriate response. If you refuse you will not get the results you are looking for. >and hey - IF the email addresses were SO important - >why are they not listed in the MCS home page directly ? >and not under the FAQ - where the billing and support "dept heads" are listed? >it's a love/hate relationship - typical tech head - having been one myself. >I like the expert tech knowledge - but the lack of a marketing sense counter balances it - >it just depends how much you are willing to put up with before pulling the plug If you are that unhappy, why are you still here? Fact is, there is a 24x7 Skypager number which you, and any other CUSTOMER can use to report service outages on weekends and evenings after 9. For SERVICE OUTAGES, email or posting is NOT APPROPRIATE. These are emergencies, and the ONLY appropriate way to deal with them is a phone call -- to get an answer, or someone on it, *RIGHT NOW*. If you email about a news server being offline, you might not get a response for 8 hours or more -- someone might be sleeping, as an example. The beeper, on the other hand, will wake that same someone up, who is then obligated to fix the problem. There are FOUR employees, myself included, who live within a 5 minute walk from the server which you had a problem with. TWO of them carry Skypagers, and Kim and I carry alphanumeric pagers which these people can use to reach us in the event they cannot handle the problem at hand. There is an EXTENSIVE internal procedure for handling off-hours service outages. We require customers to follow procedure in order to be assured of good service in these events. If you will not do so, then our response will not be adequate by *my* standards, and probably not by yours either. If you email *me* about that same outage, with a "fix it now" tone, you're not going to get a rapid response. Why? Because *it is not my responsibility to fix it*, and you are ignoring explicit instruction which you have received about *how* to receive quality service from our firm. If you flame here about an 8 hour news outage, but didn't REPORT IT for 8 hours via appropriate channels, you'll not get any response or change in procedure from us. Obviously it wasn't important enough *to you* to follow our procedures to get a rapid response - so therefore, you just defined what you believe is an acceptable response to the problem. If, on the other hand, you DO page or call in these situations and fail to get an appropriate response, Kim and I want to hear about it. That means that one of our employees, who has the responsibility of monitoring this pager, isn't doing their job. We need the date/time/problem on this, so we can track it. We consider that a serious problem which we will correct immediately. Bellyaching about an 8 hour news failure when I am sleeping, and so were the people responsible for monitoring the pager -- when nobody has reported the outage -- is not productive, will not change our procedure, and will not cause us to get upset with anyone (or any piece of hardware) about an inadequate job being done. BTW, the monitoring system that watches the server can't catch these failures -- the system remains pingable during the hang, so the SNMP monitor fails to see a problem. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@MCS.Net)| MCSNet - The Finest Internet Connectivity Modem: [+1 312 248-0900] | (shell, PPP, SLIP, leased) in Chicagoland Voice: [+1 312 248-8649] | 7 Chicagoland POPs, ISDN, 28.8, much more Fax: [+1 312 248-9865] | Email to "info@mcs.net" WWW: http://www.mcs.net ISDN - Get it here TODAY! | Home of Chicago's only FULL AP Clarinet feed!
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10d5fa,9eb8057a861c018a X-Google-Attributes: gid10d5fa,public From: karl@MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) Subject: Re: technical support - how to establish it Date: 1995/07/10 Message-ID: <3treu9$1qr@Venus.mcs.com> X-Deja-AN: 106054153 references: <3tp0dd$gn5@news.wwa.com> <3tpf64$gmh@news1.mcs.net> organization: MCSNet Ops, Chicago, IL newsgroups: chi.internet