🚀 go-pugleaf

On 11/7/2011 10:21 AM, Cydrome Leader wrote:
> smr<me@shawnritchie.com>  wrote:
>> On 11/6/2011 1:54 PM, Cydrome Leader wrote:
>>> Adam H. Kerman<ahk@chinet.com>   wrote:
>>>> Bruce Esquibel<bje@ripco.com>   wrote:
>>>>> Adam H. Kerman<ahk@chinet.com>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I really think once Uverse is "mostly available", the DSL is going to end up
>>>>> where ISDN is now, a legacy service that few of their people are going to
>>>>> know about it.
>>>>
>>>> I would have loved ISDN, but AT&T fucked it up so it never became a
>>>> ubiquitous service unless you were provisioning a PBX.
>>>
>>> The only problem with ISDN it was really quite pointless to anybody that
>>> never had it. It was never going to be a hit, with anybody.
>>>
>>> The same type of idiots that made LDAP came up with ISDN as a solution to
>>> a problem that never existed. Like anything from a committee with no real
>>> technical skills or real life experience, it was far too complex and
>>> offered nothing anybody really wanted.
>>>
>>> Unless people with pulse dial phones and party lines were really itching
>>> to get 3 frames per minute video conferencing, or to have to lease another
>>> terminal adapter to connect to their leased telephone, class I fax machine
>>> and credit card terminal.
>>>
>>> Sadly, the committee or whoever that came up with ISDN seemed to think
>>> these were the people that would want it. So obviously since nobody aside
>>> from 14 businesses used it, it was hard to get for anybody else.
>>>
>>> I lived at one place that I wanted ISDN at. AT&T said my CO had no capable
>>> switch, but they could run the line over from another CO for only
>>> $285/month or something weird like that.
>>
>> It never offered enough of an increase over dialup to be feasible as a
>> hot product. To get any appreciable speed increase you had to have
>> 2-channel anyways.
>>
>> That said, I had dual ISDN at home for years when I couldn't get DSL due
>> to CO distance factors. It was the only better-than-dialup option I had.
>>
>> What really sucked was when it had trouble and I had to grind through a
>> few field techs until I found the one out of 100 that had actually heard
>> of ISDN and knew what to do with it.
>
> Any of my calls about ordering ISDN caused massive confusion after that
> TEAM-DATA number went away, since it wasn't a consumer service and I
> wasn't a business either. It seemed like it was some bastard service
> nobody directly sold or supported.
>
> I still laugh when I see circuits with IBZD on them usually with an
> Ameritech logo-ed tag.

I had to go through my Provisioning contacts over there from work to get 
the fucker installed at all. Once they found out I was a residence they 
REALLY didn't want to install it but I was able to get it done.

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smr