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smr <me@shawnritchie.com> wrote:
> On 9/20/2011 11:11 AM, Cydrome Leader wrote:
>> Friend had dry DSL installed, they never had voice service where they love
>> jnow. The install date passed and the box of junk from AT&T arrived. They
>> plugged stuff in and nothing happend.
>>
>> I take a look and sure enough, their phone line runs to the netpop but is
>> disconnected from everything.
>>
>> I try to locate a data signal with a tracing probe. Out of 12 pairs,
>> nobody has dialtone in that building, but one pair sounded data-ish.
>>
>> I disconnect whatever on the noisy line, connect their line and everything
>> works.
>>
>> There was data-ish noise on the house pair that was connected to that
>> block so I suspect there was another DSL user on there until I showed up.
>>
>> Their line wasn't tagged so whatever.
>>
>> I can't inagine AT&T has the ability to tell me what pairs they used for
>> the circuit that runs into the building, and missing days of work to meet
>> some line installer that will lcharge like $175 or whatever it is they
>> charge now seemed bogus as there wasn't even a second data circuit coming
>> into the building so they probably fucked something up to start with.
>>
>> So the lesson is without voice service, it's hard to located and identify
>> phone lines.
> 
> More of this shit's going to happen given that HiCap will no longer 
> dispatch to tag an improperly or untagged line even for commercial 
> customers. Their inventory system is not capable of tracking which pair 

"hipcap"- haven't heard that in a while. Does AT&T even have special 
people for DSL stuff? I just know the days of making a bid deal over data 
circuits is over, and people even got upset when I was stull using 
red/white crossconnect as I was "messing up" their colors or something 
stupid like that.

I have no problem with house wiring, but I really can't think of a way to 
identify these data circuits if they don't bother to tag them.

When I ordered ISDN they HAD to come inside to leave the orange tag on it, 
but when it was switched over, they just did something at the pole which 
was probably just testing.

> at a given site a given circuit was deployed to, so it's all based off 
> of the physical tagging at the netpop. So, my techs get to babysit their 
> techs and put loops up on our end while AT&T walks through twenty 
> fuckin' pairs trying to find which one I actually need them to be 
> working on.

It would be hillarious to try to get the script robots in india to throw 
some tone on the line for me. The real support folks in Missouri can do 
this, but it takes a while to get one of those people.

> At any rate, good job stealing service. I'm sure the other party will 
> call their provider, get a dispatch, oh, eight days from now, knock your 
> friends out of service and y'all can enjoy this dance for a bit. Won't 
> get fixed for good until someone with a brain puts two and two together 
> and realizes there's supposed to be two separate runs of service to that 
> building, but as each call will be independent of the other and they 
> don't cross-reference shit, I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that 
> to happen.

We'll see.

It seem that DSL stuff is just some sort of PPP-ish deal and it doesn't 
matter what line you use as long as you can authenticate. The new uverse 
DSL modem from motorola is a little 1different from the the old 
speedstream 4x000 stuff I've come across.