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From: Cydrome Leader
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:06
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:06
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Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote: > Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote: > >>Friend had dry DSL installed, they never had voice service where they love >>jnow. The install date passed and the box of junk from AT&T arrived. They >>plugged stuff in and nothing happend. > >>I take a look and sure enough, their phone line runs to the netpop but is >>disconnected from everything. > >>I try to locate a data signal with a tracing probe. Out of 12 pairs, >>nobody has dialtone in that building, but one pair sounded data-ish. > >>I disconnect whatever on the noisy line, connect their line and everything >>works. > >>There was data-ish noise on the house pair that was connected to that >>block so I suspect there was another DSL user on there until I showed up. > >>Their line wasn't tagged so whatever. > >>I can't inagine AT&T has the ability to tell me what pairs they used for >>the circuit that runs into the building, and missing days of work to meet >>some line installer that will lcharge like $175 or whatever it is they >>charge now seemed bogus as there wasn't even a second data circuit coming >>into the building so they probably fucked something up to start with. > >>So the lesson is without voice service, it's hard to located and identify >>phone lines. > > Fuck AT&T. The install isn't complete until they send out an installer to > identify the line, even if you are completing the hookup to the inside > wire. Doesn't AT&T have enough access just to hang a fucking tag to identify > the loop? The new scam with DSL is they don't come out at all, but if they do you will get billed for service or an "inside wiring" job even if it's to fix a mess they made or left. Until recently when people had POTs service in apartments, locating lines was pretty easy, even if they were all botched up. I still have all my phone crap, which I should have sold years ago as it's essentially useless these days. Even the line techs would just call their cellphone to locate a line, I don't know what they do these days, if anything at all. I can't even recall the last time I saw an AT&T guy with a buttset on his belt.
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From: Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com>
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Subject: Re: possible dick move
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 20:06:48 +0000 (UTC)
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