🚀 go-pugleaf

barbie gee <booger@nosespam.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, John Rappe wrote:
>>barbie gee wrote:
>>>On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>Geoff Gass <glg@tanzenmb.com> wrote:
>>>>>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

>>>>>>> so there was a post where the @gmx something guy suggested turning o=
>ff
>>>>>>> "metamail" something in my tin config so I can stop being nagged by =
>the
>>>>>>> stupid shit Barb's tin generates.
>>>>
>>>>>> Barb uses Pine. There is a configuration setting to get Pine to gener=
>ate
>>>>>> plain text 7-bit ASCII even though it's quoting a message with a
>>>>>> non-ASCII character in it. Without turning off that feature, Pine
>>>>>> encodes all sorts of stupid stuff.

>>>>> nobody's been able to tell her what that is...

>>>> Huh?

>>>> If downgrade-multipart-to-text were set, then Pine won't create message=
>s
>>>> with multipart messages with MIME boundaries, which it does by default
>>>> in reply to such messages under certain circumstances I don't understan=
>d.

>>> okay, it's set.  Try me out now.

>> here ya go: =A2=A7=BD=A5=B6=FE

>> followups set to chi.test

>you put in like a cent sign, some kinda double squiggle, a half, a yen, a=
>=20
>paragraph and a russian r, yeah?

Aargh!

Pine marked it ISO-8859-1, not actually knowing what the 8-bit
characters were as the precursor message wasn't marked. I think that's
set just based on barb's terminal.

However, it encoded the 8-bit characters as quoted-printable. Usenet is
8-bit clean and never requires encoding for this purpose.

So every line ends with an = even in the middle of words, which stands for
"internal paragraph break to be ignored but not every display ignores them".
There's no valid reason to do that as Pine was attempting to do
format=flowed as well. I found it necessary NEVER to use format=flowed
in Pine because Pine failed to parse quotes logically to engage this
feature.

That's two more settings to find to turn off.

This is why I haven't yet switched to alpine as I'm still not entirely
used to pine's vagaries.