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Article #166Re: mime crap
From: Geoff Gass
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:34
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 13:34
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Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote: > barbie gee <booger@nosespam.com> wrote: >>On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, John Rappe wrote: >>>barbie gee wrote: >>>>On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, Adam H. Kerman wrote: >>>>>Geoff Gass <glg@tanzenmb.com> wrote: >>>>>>Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com> wrote: >>>>>>>Cydrome Leader <presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> so there was a post where the @gmx something guy suggested turning o= >>ff >>>>>>>> "metamail" something in my tin config so I can stop being nagged by = >>the >>>>>>>> stupid shit Barb's tin generates. >>>>> >>>>>>> Barb uses Pine. There is a configuration setting to get Pine to gener= >>ate >>>>>>> plain text 7-bit ASCII even though it's quoting a message with a >>>>>>> non-ASCII character in it. Without turning off that feature, Pine >>>>>>> encodes all sorts of stupid stuff. > >>>>>> nobody's been able to tell her what that is... > >>>>> Huh? > >>>>> If downgrade-multipart-to-text were set, then Pine won't create message= >>s >>>>> with multipart messages with MIME boundaries, which it does by default >>>>> in reply to such messages under certain circumstances I don't understan= >>d. > >>>> okay, it's set. Try me out now. > >>> here ya go: =A2=A7=BD=A5=B6=FE > >>> followups set to chi.test > >>you put in like a cent sign, some kinda double squiggle, a half, a yen, a= >>=20 >>paragraph and a russian r, yeah? > > Aargh! > > Pine marked it ISO-8859-1, not actually knowing what the 8-bit > characters were as the precursor message wasn't marked. I think that's > set just based on barb's terminal. > > However, it encoded the 8-bit characters as quoted-printable. Usenet is > 8-bit clean and never requires encoding for this purpose. > > So every line ends with an = even in the middle of words, which stands for > "internal paragraph break to be ignored but not every display ignores them". > There's no valid reason to do that as Pine was attempting to do > format=flowed as well. I found it necessary NEVER to use format=flowed > in Pine because Pine failed to parse quotes logically to engage this > feature. > > That's two more settings to find to turn off. > > This is why I haven't yet switched to alpine as I'm still not entirely > used to pine's vagaries. it looked fine in slrn, just converted the weird chars to ? marks
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