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As quoted from <bEnnx47UlVHd090yn@mome.apk.net> by sysop@mome.apk.net (March Hare):

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> In article <4nagtd$b3t@junior.wariat.org>,
> catfood@junior.wariat.org (Mark W. Schumann) wrote:
> >I believe that for purposes of spam and velveeta deterrence we should
> >follow generally accepted with standard Usenet practice: flame the small
> >ones and cancel the large (BI >= 20) ones. 
> 


> sophisticated type of spam.  The spam filter I'm working on looks for both
> BI and number of crossposts.  Very little gets caught by the BI, yet about
> 75% of spams get caught by the 20 or more newsgroups rule.  Since it
> is a smaller feed, it is becoming quite a task actually testing out the BI
> portion of it.
> 
> If you think I'm being too restrictive, my original thought was to hit 10 or
> more crossposts.  Nothing pisses me off worse than coming back from a
> four day business trip and waste more time going through spam than 
> actually reading any news actually relating to any of the groups I read.


John, be aware that what you face is a limitation of OS/newsreader. 
Unix based newsreaders will present crossposted articel only once; 
after you read it in first newsgroup, you won't see it in aother newsgroups.

On Dos/windows based systems, since they keep a separate copy of crossposted 
article for every newsgroup, massive crossposting is very painful. Still, 
it is OS/newsreader limitation. 

Also, issue of cancelling other's articles is very delicate - 
keep in mind that more and more often cancel articels create more traffic than 
original spam. Cancelin other's articles open huge can of worm - look at 
scientology issue. So, if you plan any kind of filter/antispam technology, 
please limit it to your own machine. If it will affect downfeed sites, 
you should make them aware that you do limit/censor traffic on your site. 


For this reasons, APK does not censor/restrict news traffic. We do not see
advantages in trying to micromanage news flow. We belive that it is function 
of user interface ( newsreader ) to allow kill files, topic selection, 
gentle cross-posting handling etc. As long as we have resources we will 
carry all traffic. 

As a side note: APK exchanges traffic with SPrint, MCI, OARnet, CWRU, EFF 
- those are primary feeds, delivering everythign they have; we also have a dozen 
smaller inbound feeds for some more unique groups - like from Poland 
pl. groups; from Germany relcom.; and others. 

> 
> John
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