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Article #497Re: AVOID TigerDirect's Amquest Rockwell AM56HCFSP modem!!!
From: Elric of Imrryr
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:00
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 00:00
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In article <180719991604551250%rec@worker.DELETE.com>, rec@worker.DELETE.com says... > In article <OLlk3.6197$lP6.270557@news3.giganews.com>, Miguel Cruz > <usenet@admin.u.nu> wrote: > > > Aside from the relatively small number of guns that were smuggled in, then, > > they started their lives as legal weapons. That's all. > > Now you're talking sense - NOT! > > A guy buys a gun legally at a gun shop, gets it registered, and keeps > it in his home. The guy's house gets robbed while he's away and some > punk steals the gun. The punk takes the gun and holds up liquor stores, > shoots a few people, etc. So now, the solution to the problem is to > punish the legal gun owner and take away his right to bear arms? Makes > no sense... we need tougher laws against anyone that uses a gun in a > violent crime and keep them locked up. You commit a violent crime with > a gun - instant 20+ jail term with no parole. > But logic has nothing to do with the issue of gun control. It is a RELIGIOUS ISSUE, just like abortion. The people who support gun control believe that guns are morally wrong, and any issues they bring up are generally just used to make gun control acceptable to those who do not share their religious views. Just like anti-abortions use parental right to now, or protecting the health of women. The unfortunate trend in a modern industrial socialist state is to ALWAYS reduce freedom, and even conservatives are supporting gun control (Every republican president and ex-president has endrosed the HCI platforms). The right of the State to regulate behavior for the best interests of society has always over ridden the constitution. How many people really support the idea of the Bill of Rights? Very few. Look how popular censorship is. Any elected offical who supports more freedom is label an extremist or a crazy. Singapore and China are the models for the future US. A sociality where everyone is free to be productive citizens and consumers. You have the right to express any views with the accepted two party framework. You have a right to privacy as long as it does not hinder law enforcement. You have a freedom to believe in any IRS approved religion with a 403 certification.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 11474a,cca17434cb00dacf X-Google-Attributes: gid11474a,public X-Google-Thread: 107cd9,cca17434cb00dacf X-Google-Attributes: gid107cd9,public X-Google-Thread: 107518,cca17434cb00dacf X-Google-Attributes: gid107518,public From: Elric_of_Imrryr@email.com (Elric of Imrryr) Subject: Re: AVOID TigerDirect's Amquest Rockwell AM56HCFSP modem!!! Date: 1999/07/18 Message-ID: <MPG.11fbef21cc786688989efe@nntp.we.mediaone.net> X-Deja-AN: 502507185 References: <nD3j3.3825$Pt1.612@wormhole.dimensional.com> <5V9k3.4079$Pt1.770@wormhole.dimensional.com> <Nubk3.5635$lP6.245008@news3.giganews.com> <Okkk3.12$Q12.2557@typhoon.southeast.rr.com> <OLlk3.6197$lP6.270557@news3.giganews.com> <180719991604551250%rec@worker.DELETE.com> X-Trace: clnws01.we.mediaone.net 932335443 24.130.57.75 (Sun, 18 Jul 1999 15:04:03 PDT) Organization: Great Empire of Melnibone' NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 15:04:03 PDT Newsgroups: co.consumers,alt.consumers.experiences,misc.consumers