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Article #11646Re: Occupy Denver - This Saturday War On Drug March & Rally Against Suncor
From: chatnoir
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:26
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:26
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On Jan 3, 9:07 am, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote: > On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:49:00 -0700, chatnoir <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 2, 3:25 pm, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote: > >> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:32:35 -0700, chatnoir > >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com> > >> wrote: > > >> > On Jan 2, 10:21 am, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote: > >> >> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 17:28:53 -0700, chatnoir > >> >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com> > >> >> wrote: > > >> >> > On Jan 1, 1:51 pm, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 18:02:14 -0700, chatnoir > >> >> >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com> > >> >> >> wrote: > > >> >> >> > On Dec 31, 2:28 pm, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 13:22:50 -0700, chatnoir > >> >> >> >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com> > >> >> >> >> wrote: > > >> >> >> >> >> Keystone XL has ZERO relationship to Suncor's Commerce City > >> tar > >> >> >> sand > >> >> >> >> oil > >> >> >> >> >> refining. > > >> >> >> >> >> ZERO. > > >> >> >> >> >> Their oil comes from different pipelines. > > >> >> >> >> > Ever thought it was trucked in! > > >> >> >> >> Really? > > >> >> >> >> Can't you read the press releases you post for content? > > >> >> >> >> "The company uses its Colorado refinery to process some of the > >> >> heavy > >> >> >> tar > >> >> >> >> sands coming from the Express and Platte pipelines. " > > >> >> >> >> Come on, rent a brain next time. > > >> >> >> >http://www.kindermorgan.com/business/canada/express_platte.cfm > > >> >> >> > Express and Platte Pipeline Systems > >> >> >> > The Express system consists of two crude oil pipelines – the > >> >> Express > >> >> >> > pipeline and the Platte pipeline. This 2700-km (1,700-mile) > >> >> integrated > >> >> >> > oil transportation network connects Canadian and U.S. producers > >> to > >> >> >> > refineries in the Rocky Mountain and Midwest regions of the > >> United > >> >> >> > States. > > >> >> >> > Express Pipeline System > >> >> >> > In operation since 1997, the Express pipeline receives a > >> variety of > >> >> >> > light, medium and heavy crude oil produced in western Canada at > >> >> >> > Hardisty, Alberta, a rapidly growing Canadian oil hub, and > >> delivers > >> >> >> > them to markets in Montana, Wyoming, Utah and Colorado.((( The > >> >> Express > >> >> >> > pipeline interconnects with the Platte pipeline system at > >> Casper, > >> >> >> > Wyo.))) <--- Note > > >> >> >> And so? > > >> >> > So the pipline is connected to western Canada - try reading it! > > >> >> And this is a bad thing? > > >> >> Why? > > >> >>http://coloradoindependent.com/106855/commerce-city-spill-cited-as-re... > > >> >> >> The tar sands oil comes to Commerce City via an existing pipeline > >> >> and is > >> >> >> then refined by Suncor and sold as gasoline at nearly 270 Shell > >> and > >> >> >> Phillips 66 stations around Colorado. > > >> >> >> Looks like it's not being "trucked in" as you suggested, now is > >> it? > > >> >> > Nope through the pipeline! > > >> >> Then why did you say "trucked in'? > > >> >> And what difference would it make anyway? > > >> > You said the pipline was not connected to Canada - essentially! > > >> No. I never said or implied that. > > >> I did say it had no connection to Suncor's Commerce City refinery, and I > >> was right. > > > It goes to western Canada! How can you be right? > > Please stop being silly. > > I stated the closest XL would come to Colorado is Steele City, Kansas. > > Commerce City is still in Colorado, not Western Canada. > > We all know the pipeline will deliver tar sand oil from Canada to the Gulf > states... > > End of story. Nope you said the existing pipelines does not reach Coloraod from Western Canada - I showed it did! > > > > > > > > >> >> You seem lost and confused. > > >> > Just after reading your posts! > > >> So the facts, which just blew that Occupy "press release" apart, confuse > >> you? Figures. > > >> >> >> > Platte Pipeline System > >> >> >> > In operation since 1952, the Platte system transports crude oil > >> >> from > >> >> >> > Casper, Wyo., to Wood River, Ill. While entirely located in the > >> >> United > >> >> >> > States, the system is operated by Kinder Morgan Canada. > > >> >> >>http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/united_states_pipelines.html > > >> >> >>http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/united_states_pipelines_map.jpg > > >> >> >> --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to > >> >> >> n...@netfront.net ---- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> >> --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to > >> >> n...@netfront.net ---- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to > >> n...@netfront.net ---- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to n...@netfront.net ---- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
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From: chatnoir <wolfbat359a@mindspring.com>
Newsgroups: co.general,boulder.general
Subject: Re: Occupy Denver - This Saturday War On Drug March & Rally Against Suncor
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:26:44 -0800 (PST)
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