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Re: Occupy Denver - This Saturday War On Drug March & Rally Against Suncor

#11646
From: chatnoir
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:26
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On Jan 3, 9:07 am, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:49:00 -0700, chatnoir <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com>
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> > On Jan 2, 3:25 pm, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:32:35 -0700, chatnoir
> >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com>
> >> wrote:
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> >> > On Jan 2, 10:21 am, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote:
> >> >> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 17:28:53 -0700, chatnoir
> >> >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com>
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> >> >> > On Jan 1, 1:51 pm, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 18:02:14 -0700, chatnoir
> >> >> >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
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> >> >> >> > On Dec 31, 2:28 pm, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 13:22:50 -0700, chatnoir
> >> >> >> >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com>
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> >> >> >> >> >> Keystone XL has ZERO relationship to Suncor's Commerce City
> >> tar
> >> >> >> sand
> >> >> >> >> oil
> >> >> >> >> >> refining.
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> >> >> >> >> >> ZERO.
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> >> >> >> >> >> Their oil comes from different pipelines.
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> >> >> >> >> > Ever thought it was trucked in!
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> >> >> >> >> Really?
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> >> >> >> >> Can't you read the press releases you post for content?
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> >> >> >> >> "The company uses its Colorado refinery to process some of the
> >> >> heavy
> >> >> >> tar
> >> >> >> >> sands coming from the Express and Platte pipelines. "
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> >> >> >> >> Come on, rent a brain next time.
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> >> >> >> >http://www.kindermorgan.com/business/canada/express_platte.cfm
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> >> >> >> > Express and Platte Pipeline Systems
> >> >> >> > The Express system consists of two crude oil pipelines – the
> >> >> Express
> >> >> >> > pipeline and the Platte pipeline. This 2700-km (1,700-mile)
> >> >> integrated
> >> >> >> > oil transportation network connects Canadian and U.S. producers
> >> to
> >> >> >> > refineries in the Rocky Mountain and Midwest regions of the
> >> United
> >> >> >> > States.
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> >> >> >> > Express Pipeline System
> >> >> >> > In operation since 1997, the Express pipeline receives a
> >> variety of
> >> >> >> > light, medium and heavy crude oil produced in western Canada at
> >> >> >> > Hardisty, Alberta, a rapidly growing Canadian oil hub, and
> >> delivers
> >> >> >> > them to markets in Montana, Wyoming, Utah and Colorado.((( The
> >> >> Express
> >> >> >> > pipeline interconnects with the Platte pipeline system at
> >> Casper,
> >> >> >> > Wyo.))) <--- Note
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> >> >> >> And so?
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> >> >> > So the pipline is connected to western Canada - try reading it!
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> >> >> And this is a bad thing?
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> >> >> Why?
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> >> >>http://coloradoindependent.com/106855/commerce-city-spill-cited-as-re...
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> >> >> >> The tar sands oil comes to Commerce City via an existing pipeline
> >> >> and is
> >> >> >> then refined by Suncor and sold as gasoline at nearly 270 Shell
> >> and
> >> >> >> Phillips 66 stations around Colorado.
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> >> >> >> Looks like it's not being "trucked in" as you suggested, now is
> >> it?
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> >> >> > Nope through the pipeline!
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> >> >> Then why did you say "trucked in'?
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> >> >> And what difference would it make anyway?
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> >> > You said the pipline was not connected to Canada - essentially!
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> >> No. I never said or implied that.
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> >> I did say it had no connection to Suncor's Commerce City refinery, and I
> >> was right.
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> > It goes to western Canada!  How can you be right?
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> Please stop being silly.
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> I stated the closest XL would come to Colorado is Steele City, Kansas.
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> Commerce City is still in Colorado, not Western Canada.
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> We all know the pipeline will deliver tar sand oil from Canada to the Gulf
> states...
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> End of story.

Nope you said the existing pipelines does not reach Coloraod from
Western Canada - I showed it did!


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> >> >> You seem lost and confused.
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> >> > Just after reading your posts!
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> >> So the facts, which just blew that Occupy "press release" apart, confuse
> >> you? Figures.
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> >> >> >> > Platte Pipeline System
> >> >> >> > In operation since 1952, the Platte system transports crude oil
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> >> >> >> > Casper, Wyo., to Wood River, Ill. While entirely located in the
> >> >> United
> >> >> >> > States, the system is operated by Kinder Morgan Canada.
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> >> >> >>http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/united_states_pipelines.html
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> >> >> >>http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/united_states_pipelines_map.jpg
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From: chatnoir <wolfbat359a@mindspring.com>
Newsgroups: co.general,boulder.general
Subject: Re: Occupy Denver - This Saturday War On Drug March & Rally Against Suncor
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 14:26:44 -0800 (PST)
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