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Re: Occupy Denver - This Saturday War On Drug March & Rally Against Suncor

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From: drylined
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2012 02:09
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:26:44 -0700, chatnoir <wolfbat359a@mindspring.com>  
wrote:

> On Jan 3, 9:07 am, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote:
>> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:49:00 -0700, chatnoir  
>> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com>
>> wrote:
>>
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>> > On Jan 2, 3:25 pm, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:32:35 -0700, chatnoir
>> >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> > On Jan 2, 10:21 am, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote:
>> >> >> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 17:28:53 -0700, chatnoir
>> >> >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > On Jan 1, 1:51 pm, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 18:02:14 -0700, chatnoir
>> >> >> >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> > On Dec 31, 2:28 pm, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 13:22:50 -0700, chatnoir
>> >> >> >> >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com>
>> >> >> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Keystone XL has ZERO relationship to Suncor's Commerce  
>> City
>> >> tar
>> >> >> >> sand
>> >> >> >> >> oil
>> >> >> >> >> >> refining.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> ZERO.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> >> Their oil comes from different pipelines.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> > Ever thought it was trucked in!
>>
>> >> >> >> >> Really?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> Can't you read the press releases you post for content?
>>
>> >> >> >> >> "The company uses its Colorado refinery to process some of  
>> the
>> >> >> heavy
>> >> >> >> tar
>> >> >> >> >> sands coming from the Express and Platte pipelines. "
>>
>> >> >> >> >> Come on, rent a brain next time.
>>
>> >> >> >> >http://www.kindermorgan.com/business/canada/express_platte.cfm
>>
>> >> >> >> > Express and Platte Pipeline Systems
>> >> >> >> > The Express system consists of two crude oil pipelines – the
>> >> >> Express
>> >> >> >> > pipeline and the Platte pipeline. This 2700-km (1,700-mile)
>> >> >> integrated
>> >> >> >> > oil transportation network connects Canadian and U.S.  
>> producers
>> >> to
>> >> >> >> > refineries in the Rocky Mountain and Midwest regions of the
>> >> United
>> >> >> >> > States.
>>
>> >> >> >> > Express Pipeline System
>> >> >> >> > In operation since 1997, the Express pipeline receives a
>> >> variety of
>> >> >> >> > light, medium and heavy crude oil produced in western Canada  
>> at
>> >> >> >> > Hardisty, Alberta, a rapidly growing Canadian oil hub, and
>> >> delivers
>> >> >> >> > them to markets in Montana, Wyoming, Utah and Colorado.(((  
>> The
>> >> >> Express
>> >> >> >> > pipeline interconnects with the Platte pipeline system at
>> >> Casper,
>> >> >> >> > Wyo.))) <--- Note
>>
>> >> >> >> And so?
>>
>> >> >> > So the pipline is connected to western Canada - try reading it!
>>
>> >> >> And this is a bad thing?
>>
>> >> >> Why?
>>
>> >>  
>> >>http://coloradoindependent.com/106855/commerce-city-spill-cited-as-re...
>>
>> >> >> >> The tar sands oil comes to Commerce City via an existing  
>> pipeline
>> >> >> and is
>> >> >> >> then refined by Suncor and sold as gasoline at nearly 270 Shell
>> >> and
>> >> >> >> Phillips 66 stations around Colorado.
>>
>> >> >> >> Looks like it's not being "trucked in" as you suggested, now is
>> >> it?
>>
>> >> >> > Nope through the pipeline!
>>
>> >> >> Then why did you say "trucked in'?
>>
>> >> >> And what difference would it make anyway?
>>
>> >> > You said the pipline was not connected to Canada - essentially!
>>
>> >> No. I never said or implied that.
>>
>> >> I did say it had no connection to Suncor's Commerce City refinery,  
>> and I
>> >> was right.
>>
>> > It goes to western Canada!  How can you be right?
>>
>> Please stop being silly.
>>
>> I stated the closest XL would come to Colorado is Steele City, Kansas.
>>
>> Commerce City is still in Colorado, not Western Canada.
>>
>> We all know the pipeline will deliver tar sand oil from Canada to the  
>> Gulf
>> states...
>>
>> End of story.
>
> Nope you said the existing pipelines does not reach Coloraod from
> Western Canada

No.

I said XL doesn't go near Suncor's Colorado refinery.

> - I showed it did!

I was the one who posted the pipeline map. Not you.

>
>
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>> >> >> You seem lost and confused.
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>> >> > Just after reading your posts!
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>> >> So the facts, which just blew that Occupy "press release" apart,  
>> confuse
>> >> you? Figures.
>>
>> >> >> >> > Platte Pipeline System
>> >> >> >> > In operation since 1952, the Platte system transports crude  
>> oil
>> >> >> from
>> >> >> >> > Casper, Wyo., to Wood River, Ill. While entirely located in  
>> the
>> >> >> United
>> >> >> >> > States, the system is operated by Kinder Morgan Canada.
>>
>> >> >> >>http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/united_states_pipelines.html
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>> >> >>  
>> >>http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/united_states_pipelines_map.jpg
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From: drylined <ree@d.mr>
Newsgroups: co.general,boulder.general
Subject: Re: Occupy Denver - This Saturday War On Drug March & Rally Against
 Suncor
Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 19:09:35 -0700
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