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Article #11647Re: Occupy Denver - This Saturday War On Drug March & Rally Against Suncor
From: drylined
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2012 02:09
Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2012 02:09
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On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:26:44 -0700, chatnoir <wolfbat359a@mindspring.com> wrote: > On Jan 3, 9:07 am, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote: >> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 18:49:00 -0700, chatnoir >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > On Jan 2, 3:25 pm, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote: >> >> On Mon, 02 Jan 2012 11:32:35 -0700, chatnoir >> >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > On Jan 2, 10:21 am, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote: >> >> >> On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 17:28:53 -0700, chatnoir >> >> >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > On Jan 1, 1:51 pm, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 18:02:14 -0700, chatnoir >> >> >> >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> > On Dec 31, 2:28 pm, drylined <r...@d.mr> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 13:22:50 -0700, chatnoir >> >> >> >> >> <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Keystone XL has ZERO relationship to Suncor's Commerce >> City >> >> tar >> >> >> >> sand >> >> >> >> >> oil >> >> >> >> >> >> refining. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ZERO. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Their oil comes from different pipelines. >> >> >> >> >> >> > Ever thought it was trucked in! >> >> >> >> >> >> Really? >> >> >> >> >> >> Can't you read the press releases you post for content? >> >> >> >> >> >> "The company uses its Colorado refinery to process some of >> the >> >> >> heavy >> >> >> >> tar >> >> >> >> >> sands coming from the Express and Platte pipelines. " >> >> >> >> >> >> Come on, rent a brain next time. >> >> >> >> >> >http://www.kindermorgan.com/business/canada/express_platte.cfm >> >> >> >> >> > Express and Platte Pipeline Systems >> >> >> >> > The Express system consists of two crude oil pipelines – the >> >> >> Express >> >> >> >> > pipeline and the Platte pipeline. This 2700-km (1,700-mile) >> >> >> integrated >> >> >> >> > oil transportation network connects Canadian and U.S. >> producers >> >> to >> >> >> >> > refineries in the Rocky Mountain and Midwest regions of the >> >> United >> >> >> >> > States. >> >> >> >> >> > Express Pipeline System >> >> >> >> > In operation since 1997, the Express pipeline receives a >> >> variety of >> >> >> >> > light, medium and heavy crude oil produced in western Canada >> at >> >> >> >> > Hardisty, Alberta, a rapidly growing Canadian oil hub, and >> >> delivers >> >> >> >> > them to markets in Montana, Wyoming, Utah and Colorado.((( >> The >> >> >> Express >> >> >> >> > pipeline interconnects with the Platte pipeline system at >> >> Casper, >> >> >> >> > Wyo.))) <--- Note >> >> >> >> >> And so? >> >> >> >> > So the pipline is connected to western Canada - try reading it! >> >> >> >> And this is a bad thing? >> >> >> >> Why? >> >> >> >> >>http://coloradoindependent.com/106855/commerce-city-spill-cited-as-re... >> >> >> >> >> The tar sands oil comes to Commerce City via an existing >> pipeline >> >> >> and is >> >> >> >> then refined by Suncor and sold as gasoline at nearly 270 Shell >> >> and >> >> >> >> Phillips 66 stations around Colorado. >> >> >> >> >> Looks like it's not being "trucked in" as you suggested, now is >> >> it? >> >> >> >> > Nope through the pipeline! >> >> >> >> Then why did you say "trucked in'? >> >> >> >> And what difference would it make anyway? >> >> >> > You said the pipline was not connected to Canada - essentially! >> >> >> No. I never said or implied that. >> >> >> I did say it had no connection to Suncor's Commerce City refinery, >> and I >> >> was right. >> >> > It goes to western Canada! How can you be right? >> >> Please stop being silly. >> >> I stated the closest XL would come to Colorado is Steele City, Kansas. >> >> Commerce City is still in Colorado, not Western Canada. >> >> We all know the pipeline will deliver tar sand oil from Canada to the >> Gulf >> states... >> >> End of story. > > Nope you said the existing pipelines does not reach Coloraod from > Western Canada No. I said XL doesn't go near Suncor's Colorado refinery. > - I showed it did! I was the one who posted the pipeline map. Not you. > > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You seem lost and confused. >> >> >> > Just after reading your posts! >> >> >> So the facts, which just blew that Occupy "press release" apart, >> confuse >> >> you? Figures. >> >> >> >> >> > Platte Pipeline System >> >> >> >> > In operation since 1952, the Platte system transports crude >> oil >> >> >> from >> >> >> >> > Casper, Wyo., to Wood River, Ill. While entirely located in >> the >> >> >> United >> >> >> >> > States, the system is operated by Kinder Morgan Canada. >> >> >> >> >>http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/united_states_pipelines.html >> >> >> >> >> >>http://www.theodora.com/pipelines/united_states_pipelines_map.jpg >> >> >> >> >> --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to >> >> >> >> n...@netfront.net ---- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> >> --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to >> >> >> n...@netfront.net ---- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to >> >> n...@netfront.net ---- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to >> n...@netfront.net ---- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > -- Using Opera's revolutionary email client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to news@netfront.net ---
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Subject: Re: Occupy Denver - This Saturday War On Drug March & Rally Against
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