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Trevor Wilson wrote:

>>Are you aware that the LUCY hypothesis is at best tenuous?
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> **Nope. Explain it to me.
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http://www.av1611.org/jmelton/Evolution.html

FABLE: The findings of such "ape-men" as Java Man, Neanderthal Man and 
Lucy are proof that humans have evolved from apes.

FACT: No one has ever found an "ape-man." A few examples will make our 
point.

In 1922, some bones were found in Nebraska by a man named Harold Cook. 
After studying the upper and lower jaws and the teeth of some thirty 
different animals, a complete ape known as Ramapithecus was constructed. 
The neatly drawn pictures in the textbooks give the impression that 
entire skeletons have been found, but this never happened.

Dr. Eugene Dubois discovered the famous Java Man (Pithecanthropus 
erectus) in 1891. This "great discovery" consisted of a small piece of 
the top of a skull, a fragment of a left thigh bone, and three molar 
teeth. But, instead of being found all together, these remains were 
found in an area of about seventy feet, and they were found over about a 
year's time. They were also found in an old river bed with other 
assorted extinct animal bones. This, of course, presents a number of 
problems for Java Man. How can the "experts" be so sure that these 
remains all came from the same being? Better yet, how do such bones 
survive for 750,000 years without decaying? Where's the evidence to 
prove these theories?

Piltdown man was discovered by Charles Dawson in 1912. Dawson claimed to 
have found some bones, some teeth, and even some primitive implements in 
a gravel pit in Piltdown, Sussex, England. He took them to a British 
museum where anthropologists claimed that they were 500,000 years old. 
Textbooks throughout the world then proclaimed Piltdown Man as the 
greatest find to date. Then in October of 1956, Reader's Digest EXPOSED 
this finding as "The Great Piltdown Hoax." The bones where found to be 
fraudulent. The jaw bone was proven to have belonged to an ape which had 
died only FIFTY YEARS before (not 500,000). The teeth had been filed 
down, and both, teeth and bones, had been discovered with bichromate of 
potash to cover up their true identity! Piltdown Man is a fraud.

The so-called Neanderthal Man was discovered around 1900 in a cave in 
the Neanderthal Valley near Dusseldorf, Germany. Naturally, he was 
hailed as another great "missing link." Since that time, it has been 
proven that Neanderthal wasn't an ape-man at all. He turned out to be a 
fully erect human being with a cranial capacity of over 13% more than 
that of normal man. Today, he is classified as "Homo Sapiens" 
(completely human) by most all anthropologists.

Finally, we come to Lucy, a 40% skeleton found in Ethiopia by D.C. 
Johanson in the 70's. Johanson claimed that "Lucy" had walked on two 
legs, because of the "angle of the thigh bone and the flattened surface 
at it's knee joint" (National Geographic, December, 1976). However, the 
knee joint was badly crushed; so Johanson's conclusion is mere 
speculation. Anatomist Charles Oxnard said "Lucy" did NOT walk upright, 
at least not in the same manner as humans. The chimpanzee does spend 
some time walking upright, so this was probably just another ape.

There is simply no proof that apes have evolved into men. Every time a 
case is presented it soon crumbles in the light of further research. 
Only the evolutionists with their prejudiced theories cling to such weak 
"evidence."


http://www.exchangedlife.com/skeptic/missing.htm

Lucy

Considered to be related to the arboreal ape.  No evidence has been 
found that can tie this to modern man nor human development.  However, 
lack of evidence does not deter evolutionist from declaring Lucy to be a 
missing link.

http://www.rae.org/lucyknee.html

Let's really reflect on what transpired here:
1. Johanson offered "proof" that Lucy sired humans consisting of a 
robust femur and pelvis; and a knee with "humanlike" characteristics.

2. Only under questioning did he admit that the knee was found over a 
mile from Lucy. To the best of our knowledge this admission has not 
appeared in print!. Roy did not ask the question because he already knew 
the answer, but because of the suspicions of M. Bowden, a British 
scientist. Many articles and drawings of the discovery site make no 
mention of the distance whatsoever and absolutely lead the reader to the 
wrong conclusion about their relative positions!!! Java-man revisited.

3. Confronted with the assertion that skeletal similarity (homology) 
between animals does not prove ancestral relationship, he changed the 
subject to molecular homology (DNA similarities).

4. Faced with Dr. Patterson's contention that molecular homology was 
proof that evolution was anti-science and anti-knowledge, Johanson 
simply resorted to dogma: "If you don't believe in homology, you don't 
believe in evolution...", which means to him that you don't believe in 
facts. Presumably Dr. Patterson does not believe in facts either, 
because he certainly does not have any kind words for molecular homology.

What transpired here, then, is that Johanson gave a clear demonstration 
of our assertion that evolution has nothing whatsoever to do with 
science. Belief in evolution has to do with a humanist religious 
viewpoint (Humanism is the religion of all who have chosen to believe 
man rather than God). Johanson not only used bones scattered over a mile 
apart, he presented an argument he should know to be false. As an 
anthropologist Johanson should be fully aware that a large hip joint 
does not prove upright posture, much less does it prove higher 
intelligence or the ability to sire a human. Remember, he gets paid for 
this stuff. By any reasonable standard Johanson misrepresented the 
evidence . . . and he did so for money! A businessman who made claims 
like this to sell his products would be charged with fraud rather than 
paid an honorarium!
When confronted with an informed challenge, Johanson did not resort to 
evidence or reason, but to dogma (evolution is a fact). He closed the 
meeting with the standard humanistic altar call, "Join us scientists in 
controlling our destiny and in bringing about world peace."