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Article #31618Re: The assault on the teaching of evolution:
From: Sam Stone
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 19:04
Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 19:04
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Bama Brian wrote: > Sam Stone wrote: > >> Trevor Wilson wrote: >> >>>> them, among other evidence. "Micro-Evolution," or change of genes >>>> within >>>> species, is possible, however, as the breeding of dogs and the Bible >>>> itself >>>> attest. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> **Altering of genes within a species, IS evolution. >> >> >> >> >> Yes it is, and huge gaps in the fossil record belie claims of a >> complete evolutionary progression for many of the species known as >> native to this planet. > > > Why is that so many so-called Christian educators, including the pastors > consider it fair game to lie to their flocks about evolution? Are they > just willfully uninformed, or do they do it deliberately? > > The fossil records for a given species may, or may not be, complete - > but enough complete fossil records exist for enough species to prove > that evolution exists and is at work all of the time. > > Item: "EVOLUTION OF MODERN CATS (SUMMARY)" Man is not a cat. http://www.rae.org/lucyknee.html Let's really reflect on what transpired here: 1. Johanson offered "proof" that Lucy sired humans consisting of a robust femur and pelvis; and a knee with "humanlike" characteristics. 2. Only under questioning did he admit that the knee was found over a mile from Lucy. To the best of our knowledge this admission has not appeared in print!. Roy did not ask the question because he already knew the answer, but because of the suspicions of M. Bowden, a British scientist. Many articles and drawings of the discovery site make no mention of the distance whatsoever and absolutely lead the reader to the wrong conclusion about their relative positions!!! Java-man revisited. 3. Confronted with the assertion that skeletal similarity (homology) between animals does not prove ancestral relationship, he changed the subject to molecular homology (DNA similarities). 4. Faced with Dr. Patterson's contention that molecular homology was proof that evolution was anti-science and anti-knowledge, Johanson simply resorted to dogma: "If you don't believe in homology, you don't believe in evolution...", which means to him that you don't believe in facts. Presumably Dr. Patterson does not believe in facts either, because he certainly does not have any kind words for molecular homology. What transpired here, then, is that Johanson gave a clear demonstration of our assertion that evolution has nothing whatsoever to do with science. Belief in evolution has to do with a humanist religious viewpoint (Humanism is the religion of all who have chosen to believe man rather than God). Johanson not only used bones scattered over a mile apart, he presented an argument he should know to be false. As an anthropologist Johanson should be fully aware that a large hip joint does not prove upright posture, much less does it prove higher intelligence or the ability to sire a human. Remember, he gets paid for this stuff. By any reasonable standard Johanson misrepresented the evidence . . . and he did so for money! A businessman who made claims like this to sell his products would be charged with fraud rather than paid an honorarium! When confronted with an informed challenge, Johanson did not resort to evidence or reason, but to dogma (evolution is a fact). He closed the meeting with the standard humanistic altar call, "Join us scientists in controlling our destiny and in bringing about world peace."
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