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Re: The assault on the teaching of evolution:

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From: Daniel Packman
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:10
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In article <s8idnUuM5tschE3cRVn-tA@comcast.com>,
Chas <chasclementsSPOOF@comcast.net> wrote:
>"Daniel Packman" <pack@eos.ucar.edu> wrote
>> There is no scientific requirement to have either "an excuse"
>> or "an accident". Intent is not a scientific concept. Dealing
>> with natural laws is the realm of science. Pondering over the
>> meaning of having natural laws is philosophy or religion.

>A child can tell the difference between a sound made by intent or by 
>accident- scientists can't tell the difference, and that's one of their 
>prime failures.

Nice assertion. Have you done extensive study with a fart machine
at parties? My own numbers show that both adults and children can be fooled.

>Science can't tell the difference between a ream of paper and the works of 
>Shakespeare; tin cans rolling down a hill and Mozart, a spill on the floor 
>and Van Gogh.

You seem to be listing intrinsically non-quantitative events.
Actually, much work has been done in quantifying styles of music
and even generating plausible new works in the same style.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/240642.stm

>And, if you don't speak to the question, you get no useful answer.

No, not to *that* question.

-- 
Daniel Packman
NCAR/ACD
pack@ucar.edu
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Subject: Re: The assault on the teaching of evolution:
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