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Article #31758Re: The assault on the teaching of evolution:
From: Daniel Packman
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 05:39
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 05:39
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In article <Rx2Ad.1636811$SM5.132131@news.easynews.com>, Sam Stone <sirian@mental.org> wrote: >Daniel Packman wrote: >> In article <hgWzd.1613562$SM5.130726@news.easynews.com>, >> Sam Stone <sirian@mental.org> wrote: [....issues of drilling in ANWR...] >So you're saying it can delineate a risk and cost structure but not >measure cumulative cost/benefit? Yes. Science can help us measure costs and benefits only to the extent they are measurable. We have to decide how much to weigh a given environmental cost (eg: X% visibility reduction, Y% loss of a species, N dollar decline in tourism) vs costs associated with not drilling (eg: Z% decrease in foreign oil dependence for M years). >I mean that is the crux of the global warming/pollution dilemma with >fossil fuels vs. alternative energies... >The moral and the observable, part and parcel of a stew of probabilities >yet to be successfully modeled in the long range. I wouldn't put it as a yes/no successful/unsuccessful problem. That denies the value in modeling that gets better each year. -- Daniel Packman NCAR/ACD pack@ucar.edu
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X-Google-Thread: 1073ca,2dcdab444eb22f65 X-Google-Thread: fec2a,2dcdab444eb22f65 X-Google-Thread: 113415,2dcdab444eb22f65 X-Google-Thread: 115ded,2dcdab444eb22f65 X-Google-Thread: 111e4f,2dcdab444eb22f65 X-Google-Attributes: gid1073ca,gidfec2a,gid113415,gid115ded,gid111e4f,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!news.arizona.edu!noao.edu!ucar!not-for-mail From: pack@eos.ucar.edu (Daniel Packman) Newsgroups: co.general,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.politics.usa.constitution.gun-rights,alt.politics.liberalism,co.denver.general Subject: Re: The assault on the teaching of evolution: Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 05:39:00 +0000 (UTC) Organization: National Center for Atmospheric Research Lines: 33 Message-ID: <cqqrhk$6aq$2@news.ucar.edu> References: <Od9zd.1004$qf5.599@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> <hgWzd.1613562$SM5.130726@news.easynews.com> <cqpk7j$vkb$4@news.ucar.edu> <Rx2Ad.1636811$SM5.132131@news.easynews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mop2.eos.ucar.edu X-Trace: news.ucar.edu 1104212340 6490 128.117.37.8 (28 Dec 2004 05:39:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@news.ucar.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 05:39:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: pack@eos.ucar.edu (Daniel Packman)