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"ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in
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> "The Lone Weasel" <loneweaselNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in
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> news:Xns95C6690E5725Cloneweaselyahooco@130.133.1.4... 
>> "ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in
>> news:cq9gib$haq$1@news.ks.uiuc.edu:
>>> "The Lone Weasel" <loneweaselNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in
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>>>> Gun Dyke <GunDyke@NOSPAM.com> wrote in
>>>> news:Xns95C5E5FF57761dyke@206.124.0.13:
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>>>>> the human Right to Keep and Bear Arms
>>>>
>>>> There is no "human rkba".  You have to also be a member
>>>> of the well-regulated militia, AKA the National Guard,
>>>> and on active duty.
>>>
>>> Nope.
>>
>> Nope what?  If you can't support your opinion with fact,
>> you might as well give up now.
> 
>   Where is the fact to support your opinion?  It sure ain't
>   in the 2nd 
> amendment. 

Posted daily for the past several years.

Your turn, junior.

________________


Mr. GEORGE MASON. Mr. Chairman, a worthy member has asked 
who are the militia, if they be not the people of this 
country, and if we are not to be protected from the fate of 
the Germans, Prussians, &c., by our representation? I ask, 
Who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, 
except a few public officers. But I cannot say who will be 
the militia of the future day. If that paper on the table 
gets no alteration, the militia of the future day may not 
consist of all classes, high and low, and rich and poor; but 
they may be confined to the lower and middle classes of the 
people, granting exclusion to the higher classes of the 
people. If we should ever see that day, the most ignominious 
punishments and heavy fines may be expected. Under the 
present government, all ranks of people are subject to 
militia duty. Under such a full and equal representation as 
ours, there can be no ignominious punishment inflicted. But 
under this national, or rather consolidated government, the 
case will be different. The representation being so small 
and inadequate, they will have no fellow-feeling for the 
people. They may discriminate people in their own 
predicament, and exempt from duty all the officers and 
lowest creatures of the national government. If there were a 
more particular definition of their powers, and a clause 
exempting the militia from martial law except when in actual 
service, and from fines and punishments of an unusual 
nature, then we might expect that the militia would be what 
they are. But, if this be not the case, we cannot say how 
long all classes of people will be included in the militia. 
There will not be the same reason to expect it, because the 
government will be administered by different people. We know 
what they are now, but know not how soon they may be 
altered.

The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption 
of the Federal Constitution [Elliot's Debates, Volume 3] 
Monday, June 16, 1788. pp 425-426

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Yours truly,

The Lone Weasel