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"The Lone Weasel" <loneweaselNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in message 
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> "ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in
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>> "The Lone Weasel" <loneweaselNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in
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>>> "ouroboros rex" <c-bee1@itg.uiuc.edu> wrote in
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>>>> "The Lone Weasel" <loneweaselNO@SPAMyahoo.com> wrote in
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>>>>> Gun Dyke <GunDyke@NOSPAM.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:Xns95C5E5FF57761dyke@206.124.0.13:
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>>>>>> the human Right to Keep and Bear Arms
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no "human rkba".  You have to also be a member
>>>>> of the well-regulated militia, AKA the National Guard,
>>>>> and on active duty.
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>>
>>> Nope what?  If you can't support your opinion with fact,
>>> you might as well give up now.
>>
>>   Where is the fact to support your opinion?  It sure ain't
>>   in the 2nd
>> amendment.
>
> Posted daily for the past several years.
>
> Your turn, junior.

  Surrender noted.


>
> ________________
>
>
> Mr. GEORGE MASON. Mr. Chairman, a worthy member has asked
> who are the militia, if they be not the people of this
> country, and if we are not to be protected from the fate of
> the Germans, Prussians, &c., by our representation? I ask,
> Who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people,
> except a few public officers. But I cannot say who will be
> the militia of the future day. If that paper on the table
> gets no alteration, the militia of the future day may not
> consist of all classes, high and low, and rich and poor; but
> they may be confined to the lower and middle classes of the
> people, granting exclusion to the higher classes of the
> people. If we should ever see that day, the most ignominious
> punishments and heavy fines may be expected. Under the
> present government, all ranks of people are subject to
> militia duty. Under such a full and equal representation as
> ours, there can be no ignominious punishment inflicted. But
> under this national, or rather consolidated government, the
> case will be different. The representation being so small
> and inadequate, they will have no fellow-feeling for the
> people. They may discriminate people in their own
> predicament, and exempt from duty all the officers and
> lowest creatures of the national government. If there were a
> more particular definition of their powers, and a clause
> exempting the militia from martial law except when in actual
> service, and from fines and punishments of an unusual
> nature, then we might expect that the militia would be what
> they are. But, if this be not the case, we cannot say how
> long all classes of people will be included in the militia.
> There will not be the same reason to expect it, because the
> government will be administered by different people. We know
> what they are now, but know not how soon they may be
> altered.
>
> The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adoption
> of the Federal Constitution [Elliot's Debates, Volume 3]
> Monday, June 16, 1788. pp 425-426
>
> http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-
> bin/query/r?ammem/hlaw:@field(DOCID+@lit(ed00316)):
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>
>
> -- 
>
> Yours truly,
>
> The Lone Weasel