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Article #181Re: Display of nudes
From: Joseph A. Watters
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:47
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:47
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In article <mumble>, plarkin@iphase.com (Patrick Larkin) writes: |> |> Well, all this discussion about Nudes on Display terminals has been |> limited to an Academic environment. |> |> What is the general consensus in the Commercial environment |> regarding the use of storage resources for the purpose of saving |> images of what could be considered "offensive" material? Of course, From my experience in the commercial environment, the response could be summed up in the inimitable expression of many folks these days: Not! Many companies, especially larger ones, have sexual harassment policies and policies regarding use of company property for personal reasons. In a private office, display of potentially offensive, though legally protected material may or may not be acceptable. If anyone else walks into the office, and it would be hard to imagine a company office where this would not happen, the display immediately becomes "public". This puts it in the realm of sexual harassment, if the display is of a sexually-oriented nature (this is pretty vague, and is in the eye of the beholder), and the beholder feels that it creates an intolerable work environment, and files a complaint. Most companies would seek to avoid being set up for this by demanding/requiring the removal of the material from publc display if it is reported. |> no company can dictate what an employee does on his own time, or his |> own property (i.e. Employee's PC in his/her Office). Actually, I disagree. Most companies can and will fire an employee who is convicted of a crime, even if the crime took place on the employees own time. Most employers proscribe drug use or excessive alchol use. Many companies have policies regarding intra-company sexual relationships. An employer has the right to set employment conditions that end up affecting what an employee does on his or her own time. This is not dictating behavior. An employee is free to engage in the acts proscribed by the employment conditions. Conversely, the employer is free to not retain that employee. It is called employment at will and is the predominant employment doctrine in this country. However, most companies correctly recognize that if they set too many employment conditions that affect employee's private lives, no one will work for them. For example, back in the Ross Perot days, EDS would set all kinds of conditions, such as the kind of people an employee could date, or that they could not cohabit with a member of the opposite sex, unless they were that employee`s spouse. I'm sure former EDS employees could contribute other stories. EDS is not alone on this either. My experience is that the vast majority of companies provide employees with the resources they need to do their jobs, especially items such as computers. So in most cases, the storage would take place on company property. Even if it was an employee's PC, the company could quite reasonably argue that while they can't dictate what an employee does with their own property, they certainly *can* dictate what that employee can do in the company's office building or plant site. |> |> My concern is two-fold: Disk Space usage and a Sys Admin's removal |> on sight of such images; and another employee bopping around looking |> at images in say /usr/local/gifs and stumbling across something |> he/she finds offensive. Most likely, a company will remove offensive and non-offensive material under the "no personal use of company property" policy, rather than any "offensive content" policy, because the latter is very hard to define and runs into other issues. Unless the company is engaged in the business of producing and/or distributing those images, there is almost certainly no defendable business need for the images to exist on the system. Therefore, sys admins may be empowered to remove them on sight, and other employees discovering them may cause them to be removed also. |> |> What is a company's "exposure" (sorry, couldn't find a better word) |> in the second scenario? That answer probably is best left to the company's equal employment officer and/or legal counsel. As a guess, if that employee had any right or authorization to be in that directory, and they discover the image, they may have cause for a sexual harassment complaint. An analogy would be inserting a photograph in a file folder that contains other business material. If a file clerk or secretary who has legitimate access to the files takes out the folder and opens it and discovers the photograph, they may have a harrassment claim if they are offended by the photograph, or it creates an oppressive environment. -- Joseph A. Watters, Jr. jaw@owlnet.rice.edu Deputy Director, Owlnet Rice University Houston, Texas
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ogicse!news.u.washington.edu!uw-beaver!rice!owlnet.rice.edu!jaw From: jaw@owlnet.rice.edu (Joseph A. Watters) Newsgroups: comp.admin.policy Subject: Re: Display of nudes Message-ID: <Bw15zM.92I@rice.edu> Date: 12 Oct 92 22:47:45 GMT Article-I.D.: rice.Bw15zM.92I References: <SULLIVAN.92Oct9101410@liz.cs.rose-hulman.edu> <roelle.718658120@uars_mag> <SULLIVAN.92Oct11210418@liz.cs.rose-hulman.edu> <1992Oct12.133020@iphase.com> Sender: news@rice.edu (News) Organization: Rice University Lines: 92