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Re: reality check - with apologies

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From: Wing-Keong Loke the consummate c...
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:54
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In article <1992Dec16.132319.520@uoft02.utoledo.edu> dsmith@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
>
>This may be a problem that is inappropriate or offensive to some of you, but
>
>I am also under the impression that if the PI moves from one academic or 
>research institution to another, that the grants typically move as well, even
>though they were made to the University.  I also believe that, if negotiated,
>the resources purchased on that grant move (I cannot believe that NIH or
>NSF want to pay twice for the same glassware, chemicals, software etc. just
>because someone moved).  Again, my chairman and dean are denying that this
>is the case.
>
>Doug Smith
>Assistant Professor of Chemistry
>The University of Toledo
>Toledo, OH  43606-3390
>
>voice    419-537-2116
>fax      419-537-4033
>email    dsmith@uoft02.utoledo.edu
>
>P.S.  Any one looking for a computational and synthetic organic chemist with
>a decent track record?

	I am also under the same impression that grants actually
belong to the PI.  I believe there is always a problem about who actually
owns what when the PI wants to move.  I've read about some
physics professors who contribute to a loss of prestige to the university
they were attached to because the profs took their grant money and
equipment with them when they left.
	I think the best way of of the dilemma is to try to get the
(oops!) your name on the grant instead of the University's.
I also think it's a matter of courtesy that the dept head asked you
first.  Though, being the dept head, it would be prudent let him use
the stuff freely if the use doesn't conflicts with your own interests.
The individual prof usually ahs to give in.

wing
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From: wkl1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Wing-Keong Loke                                               the consummate chronic prevaricator)
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