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Re: Dell server benchmarks are a FRAUD

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From: Captain Obvious
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 01:53
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Agreed. You can't even build a PC from parts cheaper than a Dell desktop
system.

I would never build a home grown server with RAID either. If your data is
important enough to need RAID, it is important enough to buy a system you
can get support on. And IMO, that doesn't include Dell. They really, truly,
don't know jack shit about servers. They buy an Intel motherboard, and AMI
or Adaptec RAID controller, and call it a server. Need a BIOS update or a
driver? They don't make them. And they did in fact tell me to try Adaptec's
site when my RAID controller "lost" it's brains and couldn't find my
partition. I am thankfull I had a backup, because I had to use it.


"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:JM2fa.122456$Lh6.117832@fe08.atl2.webusenet.com...
> You realize that everything you said is, well, wrong?
>
> I just bought a Dell 4550.  Very nice machine.  P4-2.66, CD-RW, etc. etc.
>
> You believe that you could assemble the SAME machine, with 640MB, for
> $US260.  Oh, and you're going to offer me a warranty and post sale tech
> support which, in my personal experience, is still excellent?  Onsite!
>
> Sure you are.
>
> Tom
> "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
> news:b5id59$2pv4$2@gavrilo.mtu.ru...
> > > Dell is a cheap clone PC company.
> >
> > Cheap???
> >
> > Buy Asus mobo (based on the same Intel chipset as Dell uses) and a
> > case, together with all other components - which are the same as Dell
> > uses - in nearest store and assemble the machine yourself or by
> > efforts of your IT deparment. This will turn out around 2-2.5 times
> > cheaper then Dell.
> > Other benefits are - better upgrade path, since all components are
> > standard and easily replaceable, and better compatibility (Dell is
> > known to have PCI problems). Repairing a failed machine (no case for
> > SOHO, but for around 100 desktops this starts to be important) - is
> > also easier - buy the new mobo in the same store and replace.
> >
> > Comparing to cars - Lexus is by far more expensive then Nissan Almera,
> > but it has _real world_ advantages over it. Not so with Dells, since
> > they are a combination of the same parts as the self-assembled
> > machine.
> >
> > > and the pathetic performance of their machines proves it. The only
> > thing
> > > more pathetic is their server service. "Dude, I think you'll have to
> > call
> > > Adaptec. We don't make the controller."
> >
> > So, the "customer support" benefit of brand-names - which they are
> > proud of - is null and void in case of Dell.
> >
> >     Max
> >
> >
>
>
>
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