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Article #534Re: Dell server benchmarks are a FRAUD
From: Tom Scales
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 02:14
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 02:14
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Exactly why are you here? "Captain Obvious" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message news:Ks8fa.138951$JE5.90148@news2.central.cox.net... > Agreed. You can't even build a PC from parts cheaper than a Dell desktop > system. > > I would never build a home grown server with RAID either. If your data is > important enough to need RAID, it is important enough to buy a system you > can get support on. And IMO, that doesn't include Dell. They really, truly, > don't know jack shit about servers. They buy an Intel motherboard, and AMI > or Adaptec RAID controller, and call it a server. Need a BIOS update or a > driver? They don't make them. And they did in fact tell me to try Adaptec's > site when my RAID controller "lost" it's brains and couldn't find my > partition. I am thankfull I had a backup, because I had to use it. > > > "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message > news:JM2fa.122456$Lh6.117832@fe08.atl2.webusenet.com... > > You realize that everything you said is, well, wrong? > > > > I just bought a Dell 4550. Very nice machine. P4-2.66, CD-RW, etc. etc. > > > > You believe that you could assemble the SAME machine, with 640MB, for > > $US260. Oh, and you're going to offer me a warranty and post sale tech > > support which, in my personal experience, is still excellent? Onsite! > > > > Sure you are. > > > > Tom > > "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message > > news:b5id59$2pv4$2@gavrilo.mtu.ru... > > > > Dell is a cheap clone PC company. > > > > > > Cheap??? > > > > > > Buy Asus mobo (based on the same Intel chipset as Dell uses) and a > > > case, together with all other components - which are the same as Dell > > > uses - in nearest store and assemble the machine yourself or by > > > efforts of your IT deparment. This will turn out around 2-2.5 times > > > cheaper then Dell. > > > Other benefits are - better upgrade path, since all components are > > > standard and easily replaceable, and better compatibility (Dell is > > > known to have PCI problems). Repairing a failed machine (no case for > > > SOHO, but for around 100 desktops this starts to be important) - is > > > also easier - buy the new mobo in the same store and replace. > > > > > > Comparing to cars - Lexus is by far more expensive then Nissan Almera, > > > but it has _real world_ advantages over it. Not so with Dells, since > > > they are a combination of the same parts as the self-assembled > > > machine. > > > > > > > and the pathetic performance of their machines proves it. The only > > > thing > > > > more pathetic is their server service. "Dude, I think you'll have to > > > call > > > > Adaptec. We don't make the controller." > > > > > > So, the "customer support" benefit of brand-names - which they are > > > proud of - is null and void in case of Dell. > > > > > > Max > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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