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Re: Dell server benchmarks are a FRAUD

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From: Tom Scales
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 02:14
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Exactly why are you here?
"Captain Obvious" <someone@somewhere.net> wrote in message
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> Agreed. You can't even build a PC from parts cheaper than a Dell desktop
> system.
>
> I would never build a home grown server with RAID either. If your data is
> important enough to need RAID, it is important enough to buy a system you
> can get support on. And IMO, that doesn't include Dell. They really,
truly,
> don't know jack shit about servers. They buy an Intel motherboard, and AMI
> or Adaptec RAID controller, and call it a server. Need a BIOS update or a
> driver? They don't make them. And they did in fact tell me to try
Adaptec's
> site when my RAID controller "lost" it's brains and couldn't find my
> partition. I am thankfull I had a backup, because I had to use it.
>
>
> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
> news:JM2fa.122456$Lh6.117832@fe08.atl2.webusenet.com...
> > You realize that everything you said is, well, wrong?
> >
> > I just bought a Dell 4550.  Very nice machine.  P4-2.66, CD-RW, etc.
etc.
> >
> > You believe that you could assemble the SAME machine, with 640MB, for
> > $US260.  Oh, and you're going to offer me a warranty and post sale tech
> > support which, in my personal experience, is still excellent?  Onsite!
> >
> > Sure you are.
> >
> > Tom
> > "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
> > news:b5id59$2pv4$2@gavrilo.mtu.ru...
> > > > Dell is a cheap clone PC company.
> > >
> > > Cheap???
> > >
> > > Buy Asus mobo (based on the same Intel chipset as Dell uses) and a
> > > case, together with all other components - which are the same as Dell
> > > uses - in nearest store and assemble the machine yourself or by
> > > efforts of your IT deparment. This will turn out around 2-2.5 times
> > > cheaper then Dell.
> > > Other benefits are - better upgrade path, since all components are
> > > standard and easily replaceable, and better compatibility (Dell is
> > > known to have PCI problems). Repairing a failed machine (no case for
> > > SOHO, but for around 100 desktops this starts to be important) - is
> > > also easier - buy the new mobo in the same store and replace.
> > >
> > > Comparing to cars - Lexus is by far more expensive then Nissan Almera,
> > > but it has _real world_ advantages over it. Not so with Dells, since
> > > they are a combination of the same parts as the self-assembled
> > > machine.
> > >
> > > > and the pathetic performance of their machines proves it. The only
> > > thing
> > > > more pathetic is their server service. "Dude, I think you'll have to
> > > call
> > > > Adaptec. We don't make the controller."
> > >
> > > So, the "customer support" benefit of brand-names - which they are
> > > proud of - is null and void in case of Dell.
> > >
> > >     Max
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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