🚀 go-pugleaf

Thanks for that good little bit of info. :)

Ermax

How's about a COMPLETE list of drives and SCSI adapters supported? In my 
case, the Compaq 320/525 tape drive (a Wangtek 5525ES with a 
proprietary Compaq SCSI adapter that uses an NCR chip set).

In article <decastroDDJ0u5.9L8@netcom.com>,
Richard A. De Castro <decastro@netcom.com> wrote:
>Contact: Shaun Walsh (805)579-6700
>	  Charlene Jaeger (805)520-1416
>                Jaeger Communications
>
>
>
>
>NOVASTOR ANNOUNCES  
>NOVABACK FOR WINDOWS 95
>
>     Simi Valley CA, August 14, 1995 - NovaStor Corporation, a leading
>     developer of backup data management software, today is among the
>     first to announce the release of its backup software that is
>     compatible with Windows 95.  NovaBack for Windows 95 is now a
>     part of NovaStor's complete suite of backup products offering users
>     the most important feature of any Backup/Restore Utility,  a
>     completely bootable disaster recovery process.  NovaStor continues
>     to lead in product compatibility by adding support for the latest
>     tape technology including   QIC 80, QIC 3010, QIC 3020, TRAVAN, QIC
>     EC-1000 and over 400 SCSI 4mm, 8mm, DLT, and QIC Drives.  NovaBack
>     offers the widest range of support for secondary and parallel port
>     controllers including:
>
>     Colorado Trakker              Pacific Rim              Shuttle Technology
>     Colorado FC 10/20             Mountain Mach II         GSI
>     Connor PPT                    Iomega IHA               Micro Solutions
>
>Features:
>     * Complete Backup - NovaBack will backup all Windows 95 specific
>     features including Windows 95 Registry Data.
>     * Database - NovaBack now tracks all files for the user, using a new
>     database feature that allows for easy grandfather, father, son tape
>     rotation.
>     * Network Support - NovaBack for Windows 95 allows users to backup
>     network servers.
>     *Instant  Compatibility - Users can now configure new tape drives
>     on the fly.  NovaStor's new  tape setup utility allows new devices
>     to be added to the support table.
>     * NovaBoot Disaster Recovery Utility - NovaBoot allows users to
>     recover from a hard disk failure without having to install the
>     entire operating system and backup application before performing a
>     system restore.
>
>Pricing and Availability:
>     NovaBack Windows 95 pricing is set at $149.00 U.S. list  for the
>     workstation version, and upgrades at $50.00.  Orders being taken
>     now for shipments beginning August 24, 1995.
>
>Company Information:
>     Founded in 1987, NovaStor Corporation is headquartered at 80B
>     Cochran Street, Simi Valley, CA 93065.  Its products are available
>     through direct sales, OEM's and an international network of
>     distributors.  NovaStor's OEMs include IBM, Dell and Tandem.   For
>     further information contact NovaStor Corp., Tel. (805)579-6700 Fax
>     (805)579-6710 Email support@novastor.com.
>
>     Coming soon!!  http://www.novastor.com
>
>
>

In article <DDM2BE.G75@mv.mv.com>, kaikow@standards.com says...
>
>How's about a COMPLETE list of drives and SCSI adapters supported? In my 
>case, the Compaq 320/525 tape drive (a Wangtek 5525ES with a 
>proprietary Compaq SCSI adapter that uses an NCR chip set).

Wait until late September for Arcada Software's offerring.  It will support a 
number of SCSI drives.

I am aware of the list of supported devices. So far it does not list the 
Compaq SCSI Tape Adapter.


In article <41ghai$2d9e@news.gate.net>,
Chris Harrington <chrish@gate.net> wrote:
>In article <DDM2BE.G75@mv.mv.com>, kaikow@standards.com says...
>>
>>How's about a COMPLETE list of drives and SCSI adapters supported? In my 
>>case, the Compaq 320/525 tape drive (a Wangtek 5525ES with a 
>>proprietary Compaq SCSI adapter that uses an NCR chip set).
>
>Wait until late September for Arcada Software's offerring.  It will support a 
>number of SCSI drives.
>

kaikow@standards.com writes:

>I am aware of the list of supported devices. So far it does not list the 
>Compaq SCSI Tape Adapter.

The compaq SCSI is an NCR chip.  It's supported. 


>In article <41ghai$2d9e@news.gate.net>,
>Chris Harrington <chrish@gate.net> wrote:
>>In article <DDM2BE.G75@mv.mv.com>, kaikow@standards.com says...
>>>
>>>How's about a COMPLETE list of drives and SCSI adapters supported? In my 
>>>case, the Compaq 320/525 tape drive (a Wangtek 5525ES with a 
>>>proprietary Compaq SCSI adapter that uses an NCR chip set).
>>
>>Wait until late September for Arcada Software's offerring.  It will support a 
>>number of SCSI drives.
>>


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Yes, it is an NCR chip, but I do not see any NCR controllers/adapters on 
the Arcada list as of mid-day yesterday.


In article <decastroDDttpx.2MJ@netcom.com>,
Richard A. De Castro <decastro@netcom.com> wrote:
>kaikow@standards.com writes:
>
>>I am aware of the list of supported devices. So far it does not list the 
>>Compaq SCSI Tape Adapter.
>
>The compaq SCSI is an NCR chip.  It's supported. 
>
>
>>In article <41ghai$2d9e@news.gate.net>,
>>Chris Harrington <chrish@gate.net> wrote:
>>>In article <DDM2BE.G75@mv.mv.com>, kaikow@standards.com says...
>>>>
>>>>How's about a COMPLETE list of drives and SCSI adapters supported? In my 
>>>>case, the Compaq 320/525 tape drive (a Wangtek 5525ES with a 
>>>>proprietary Compaq SCSI adapter that uses an NCR chip set).
>>>
>>>Wait until late September for Arcada Software's offerring.  It will support a 
>>>number of SCSI drives.
>>>
>
>
>-- 
>============================================================================
>decastro@netcom.com      Warning:  I am a trained professional.  No, Really!
>Rick N6RCX NREMT ATP MA  Do Not try this yourself - it could get ugly......
>Richard A. De Castro -   To those who have defended it, Freedom has a flavor
>rickd@primenet.com 	 the Protected will never enjoy.  
>                         -Don't Tread On Me!-
>=============================================================================

chrish@gate.net (Chris Harrington) wrote:
>In article <DDM2BE.G75@mv.mv.com>, kaikow@standards.com says...
>>
>>How's about a COMPLETE list of drives and SCSI adapters supported? In my 
>>case, the Compaq 320/525 tape drive (a Wangtek 5525ES with a 
>>proprietary Compaq SCSI adapter that uses an NCR chip set).
>
>Wait until late September for Arcada Software's offerring.  It will support a 
>number of SCSI drives.
>

Wait until September!?  I prefer to have SOME backup, 
especially running a new OS.  I wish MS would bite the bullet 
and include SCSI compatibilty along with the QIC support.


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In article <41j927$425@keystone.intergate.net>, Gary Hammer <gary@hammer.org> writes:
>chrish@gate.net (Chris Harrington) wrote:
>>In article <DDM2BE.G75@mv.mv.com>, kaikow@standards.com says...
>>>
>>>How's about a COMPLETE list of drives and SCSI adapters supported? In my 
>>>case, the Compaq 320/525 tape drive (a Wangtek 5525ES with a 
>>>proprietary Compaq SCSI adapter that uses an NCR chip set).
>>
>>Wait until late September for Arcada Software's offerring.  It will support a 
>>number of SCSI drives.
>>
>
>Wait until September!?  I prefer to have SOME backup, 
>especially running a new OS.  I wish MS would bite the bullet 
>and include SCSI compatibilty along with the QIC support.
>
>
>-- 
>                  %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>                       Gary Hammer,  gary@hammer.org
>                      *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *
>                   ISDN, Warp  OS/2, and PPP Assistance
>                            Betas Spoken Here!
>                 OS/2 "Must Have" Utilities List and Links
>                http://www.teamos2.org/software/must_have/
>                  %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>
>
>
Did you ever expect to get anything usable and reasonable from your little 
softies? And did you really say OS? and NEW???

I'd never come up with the idea to backup w-doze, I'd just get rid of it!!!

Uwe

Gary Hammer <gary@hammer.org> writes:

>chrish@gate.net (Chris Harrington) wrote:
>>In article <DDM2BE.G75@mv.mv.com>, kaikow@standards.com says...
>>>
>>>How's about a COMPLETE list of drives and SCSI adapters supported? In my 
>>>case, the Compaq 320/525 tape drive (a Wangtek 5525ES with a 
>>>proprietary Compaq SCSI adapter that uses an NCR chip set).
>>
>>Wait until late September for Arcada Software's offerring.  It will support a 
>>number of SCSI drives.
>>

>Wait until September!?  I prefer to have SOME backup, 
>especially running a new OS.  I wish MS would bite the bullet 
>and include SCSI compatibilty along with the QIC support.

If you'd like something that you can have today,send a message 
to support@novastor.com.  Novaback for Win-95 is 32-bit, Win-95 designed,
working and shipping NOW.  IT supports most every SCSI controller and
scsi tape drive.  The Floppy/IDE interface version will be out in a few
weeks.
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I did send email to novasor, but the response indicated that they are 
only supporting stand-alone SCSI adapters, not the "on board", even if in 
a separate slot, adapters dedicated to just the tape. For example, the 
person responding to me did not appear to understand how the Compaq 
320/525 SCI tape adapter worked with the Wangtek 5525ES drive.


In article <decastroDDw6D4.463@netcom.com>,
Richard A. De Castro <decastro@netcom.com> wrote:
>Gary Hammer <gary@hammer.org> writes:
>
>>chrish@gate.net (Chris Harrington) wrote:
>>>In article <DDM2BE.G75@mv.mv.com>, kaikow@standards.com says...
>>>>
>>>>How's about a COMPLETE list of drives and SCSI adapters supported? In my 
>>>>case, the Compaq 320/525 tape drive (a Wangtek 5525ES with a 
>>>>proprietary Compaq SCSI adapter that uses an NCR chip set).
>>>
>>>Wait until late September for Arcada Software's offerring.  It will support a 
>>>number of SCSI drives.
>>>
>
>>Wait until September!?  I prefer to have SOME backup, 
>>especially running a new OS.  I wish MS would bite the bullet 
>>and include SCSI compatibilty along with the QIC support.
>
>If you'd like something that you can have today,send a message 
>to support@novastor.com.  Novaback for Win-95 is 32-bit, Win-95 designed,
>working and shipping NOW.  IT supports most every SCSI controller and
>scsi tape drive.  The Floppy/IDE interface version will be out in a few
>weeks.
>-- 
>============================================================================
>decastro@netcom.com      Warning:  I am a trained professional.  No, Really!
>Rick N6RCX NREMT ATP MA  Do Not try this yourself - it could get ugly......
>Richard A. De Castro -   To those who have defended it, Freedom has a flavor
>rickd@primenet.com 	 the Protected will never enjoy.  
>                         -Don't Tread On Me!-
>=============================================================================

kaikow@standards.com wrote:

> I did send email to novasor, but the response indicated that they are 
> only supporting stand-alone SCSI adapters, not the "on board", even if in 
> a separate slot, adapters dedicated to just the tape. For example, the 
> person responding to me did not appear to understand how the Compaq 
> 320/525 SCI tape adapter worked with the Wangtek 5525ES drive.
 
 
> In article <decastroDDw6D4.463@netcom.com>,
> Richard A. De Castro <decastro@netcom.com> wrote:
> >Gary Hammer <gary@hammer.org> writes:

> >>chrish@gate.net (Chris Harrington) wrote:
> >>>In article <DDM2BE.G75@mv.mv.com>, kaikow@standards.com says...

> >>>>How's about a COMPLETE list of drives and SCSI adapters supported? In my 
> >>>>case, the Compaq 320/525 tape drive (a Wangtek 5525ES with a 
> >>>>proprietary Compaq SCSI adapter that uses an NCR chip set).

> >>>Wait until late September for Arcada Software's offerring.  It will support a 
> >>>number of SCSI drives.

  >>Wait until September!?  I prefer to have SOME backup, 
> >>especially running a new OS.  I wish MS would bite the bullet 
> >>and include SCSI compatibilty along with the QIC support.

> >If you'd like something that you can have today,send a message 
> >to support@novastor.com.  Novaback for Win-95 is 32-bit, Win-95 designed,
> >working and shipping NOW.  IT supports most every SCSI controller and
> >scsi tape drive.  The Floppy/IDE interface version will be out in a few
> >weeks.


I have used the tape backup software that comes bundled with
the Adaptec 2940 board successfully in Win95. This may not be a
very high end backup package but for most users it would probably 
be adequate.

In article <41o5qp$pgm@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> Robert Salasidis <salasidis@medcor.mcgill.ca> writes:
>From: Robert Salasidis <salasidis@medcor.mcgill.ca>
>Subject: Re: Windows 95 Backup Software
>Date: 26 Aug 1995 22:05:13 GMT

>kaikow@standards.com wrote:

>I have used the tape backup software that comes bundled with
>the Adaptec 2940 board successfully in Win95. This may not be a
>very high end backup package but for most users it would probably 
>be adequate.

As long as you don't use long filenames.

--rick


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Gary Hammer <gary@hammer.org> wrote:


>Wait until September!?  I prefer to have SOME backup, 
>especially running a new OS.  I wish MS would bite the bullet 
>and include SCSI compatibilty along with the QIC support.


If you have an ADAPTEC - Controller and have EZ-SCSI, you can use it´s
Win-Backup proggie. Not much of a program, but does the job...

HTH

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In article <RWH.346.0051B65F@maroon.tc.umn.edu>
RWH@maroon.tc.umn.edu (Richard Hoffbeck) wrote:

> In article <41o5qp$pgm@homer.cs.mcgill.ca> Robert Salasidis <salasidis@medcor.mcgill.ca> writes:
>>From: Robert Salasidis <salasidis@medcor.mcgill.ca>
>>Subject: Re: Windows 95 Backup Software
>>Date: 26 Aug 1995 22:05:13 GMT
> 
>>kaikow@standards.com wrote:
> 
>>I have used the tape backup software that comes bundled with
>>the Adaptec 2940 board successfully in Win95. This may not be a
>>very high end backup package but for most users it would probably 
>>be adequate.
> 
> As long as you don't use long filenames.
> 

What about the backup software with Windows 95.  I have not used it, but 
is it real bad?  How is the compression and performance.  I guess I will 
attempt to use it tonight and see..



D.M. (Mike) Mattix
Crop Protection Group of Monsanto
Luling, LA 
dmmatt@ccmail.monsanto.com

rodat@biggs.teuto.de (Henri Rodat) wrote:

>Gary Hammer <gary@hammer.org> wrote:


>>Wait until September!?  I prefer to have SOME backup, 
>>especially running a new OS.  I wish MS would bite the bullet 
>>and include SCSI compatibilty along with the QIC support.


>If you have an ADAPTEC - Controller and have EZ-SCSI, you can use it´s
>Win-Backup proggie. Not much of a program, but does the job...

But NOT with long filenames...

-- 
brian@fantasia.demon.co.uk

In article <41t1g0$js9@linteuto.teuto.de>,
   rodat@biggs.teuto.de (Henri Rodat) wrote:
:Gary Hammer <gary@hammer.org> wrote:
:
:
:>Wait until September!?  I prefer to have SOME backup, 
:>especially running a new OS.  I wish MS would bite the bullet 
:>and include SCSI compatibilty along with the QIC support.
:
:
:If you have an ADAPTEC - Controller and have EZ-SCSI, you can use it´s
:Win-Backup proggie. Not much of a program, but does the job...

But it doesn't know about long file names.  So, your first restore will 
trash your system.  Same for any other older disk utility.  Play with a 
long filename with a DOS/Win 3.1 program, lose the long filename.

Fail to see how your CP Backup could save long file anmes etc successfully.

So here's a challenge. Blow away your C drive with a format command and recover with your tape 
backup.

Bet $5 to your nothing that it doesn't work.

And, while CP Backup workes with some tapes, I note that there is no driver for WIN 95 
installed for mine (SCSI). I'm assuming the equivalent of a TAPE S/W to ASPI thru ASPI driver 
to hardware needs to happen and I need the equivalent of the ASPI driver to allow the tape s/w 
to work.



-- 

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kaikow@standards.com writes:

>Well, the problem is "almost every ...". I had an email interchange with 
>someone at Novastor who did not seem to even understand that many SCSI 
>tape drives are controlled by "on board" SCSI tape adapters for which 
>there are no expliocitly loaded drivers in autoexec.bat or config.sys. An 
>example is the Compaq 320/525 tape drive (it is actually a Wangtek 5525 
>ES with a Compaq SCSI tape adapter (this uses an NCR chip set) in a 
>separate slot). To use such tape drive adapter combinations, the backup 
>software has to be smart enough to recognize such devices. I woul suspect 
>that the Novastor product does detect many such dervices, but I was 
>turned off by the fact that the Novastor person thought that all drives 
>required si=ome driver to be loaded.

If there's some backup software that can recognize your scsi 
tape drive and the NCR chip in your compaq without an aspi driver,
I'd like to know which.

Many scsi controllers (the adaptec 1542, for example) can
suppor one or two hard drives without drivers, but require
them for cd-roms, tapes, etc.

You can download a demo (time-limited) version ofNovaback for
Windows 95 from the Novastor BBS, the filename is NBW95demo.exe.

The BBS number is 805-579-6720.  Sorry we don't have FTP yet, 
I'm working on it even as I type this.  It should be up
by friday night, try ftp://novastor.com



>I'd be happy to try the Novastor software if they could demonstrate that 
>the tape drive I describe above is supported.

>Is there a demo version that can be downloaded?


>In article <decastroDE4q32.423@netcom.com>,
>Richard A. De Castro <decastro@netcom.com> wrote:
>>brian@fantasia.demon.co.uk (Brian Key) writes:
>>
>>>rodat@biggs.teuto.de (Henri Rodat) wrote:
>>
>>>>Gary Hammer <gary@hammer.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>>Wait until September!?  I prefer to have SOME backup, 
>>>>>especially running a new OS.  I wish MS would bite the bullet 
>>>>>and include SCSI compatibilty along with the QIC support.
>>
>>
>>>>If you have an ADAPTEC - Controller and have EZ-SCSI, you can use it´s
>>>>Win-Backup proggie. Not much of a program, but does the job...
>>
>>>But NOT with long filenames...
>>
>>At the risk of advertising (on my personal account), why not try the
>>Novastor product?  $34.95, full 32-bit, full Win-95 support, works with
>>almost every SCSI card and SCSI tape drive.  Send email to sales@novastor.com
>>or check out their web page, which for now is at http://www.novastor.surfcty.com/
>>
>>
>>Sorry for the advertising, I'll go now.
>>
>>
>>
>>>-- 
>>>brian@fantasia.demon.co.uk
>>
>>-- 
>>============================================================================
>>decastro@netcom.com      Warning:  I am a trained professional.  No, Really!
>>Rick N6RCX NREMT ATP MA  Do Not try this yourself - it could get ugly......
>>Richard A. De Castro -   To those who have defended it, Freedom has a flavor
>>rickd@primenet.com 	 the Protected will never enjoy.  
>>                         -Don't Tread On Me!-
>>=============================================================================


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Richard A. De Castro -   To those who have defended it, Freedom has a flavor
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                         -Don't Tread On Me!-
=============================================================================

>:If you have an ADAPTEC - Controller and have EZ-SCSI, you can use it´s
>:Win-Backup proggie. Not much of a program, but does the job...
>
>But it doesn't know about long file names.  So, your first restore will 
>trash your system.  Same for any other older disk utility.  Play with a 
>long filename with a DOS/Win 3.1 program, lose the long filename.



                           8/22/95 News Release

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Adaptec Provides the First All-in-One Complete SCSI Software Solution for
Windows 95

The new Adaptec EZ-SCSI 4.0 Software Provides 32-bit Applications and
Tools For Ultimate Control, Productivity and Ease of Use with SCSI
Peripherals

Milpitas, Calif, - August 22, 1995 - Adaptec (NASDAQ:ADPT), an industry
leader in input/output (I/O) technology, today announced significant
additions to its popular Adaptec EZ-SCSI software. Version 4.0 provides a
suite of 32-bit applications and tools which can be used with an Advanced
SCSI Programming Interface- (ASPI) compliant host adapter to support
virtually all major SCSI peripherals. These applications and tools include:
SCSI Tape Backup, CD-R mastering and duplication software, Photo CD Viewer
and CD Players, and SCSI Explorer, a collection of SCSI system management
tools.

Today, most users need to connect to one or more peripherals, including
disk drives, tape drives, CD-ROM drives, scanners, and removable disk
devices. As more users move to powerful multitasking operating systems,
these peripherals will continue to gain popularity on the desktop. But for
true ease of use, the applications and tools that enable these peripherals
must offer simple connectivity. Also, many 32-bit multitasking operating
systems such as Windows 95 and Windows NT require 32-bit applications to
maximize their performance capabilities. Adaptec EZ-SCSI 4.0 software is
designed to address these requirements.

"If users truly want to take advantage of Windows 95, multitasking and Plug
and Play, they'll need an effective and easy way to manage their SCSI
peripherals," said S. Sundaresh, vice president and general manager of the
Personal I/O business unit at Adaptec. "Adaptec EZ-SCSI 4.0 software is the
easiest solution."

Applications:

SCSI Tape Backup
     The SCSI Tape Backup application supports a broad list of devices and
     backs up volumes, directories and individual files to prevent loss of
     data. It also includes restore capabilities. In tune with the needs of
     Windows 95 users, there is support for long file names.
CD Writer and Copier
     The CD Writer and Copier enables CD-R mastering from the desktop and
     the ability to backup the entire contents of one CD to a second CD.
Photo CD Viewer and CD Player
     The Photo CD Viewer application allows stored photographic images to
     be viewed on a PC or edited and exported as data files for multimedia
     applications (Adaptec has included over 80 color photos for immediate
     use). The CD Player allows users to easily play Audio CDs on their PCs
     using controls that work like a home stereo system. Adaptec EZ-SCSI
     4.0 software provides four different CD Player versions for maximum
     flexibility. These versions include: jukebox, standard, mini, and
     micro.

SCSI Explorer Tools:

SCSI Interrogator and Read and Write Cache
     The SCSI Interrogator tool displays detailed hardware characteristics
     for each device connected to the SCSI bus for easy detection of device
     status and diagnosis. The Read and Write Cache tool allows users to
     control key drive performance parameters to optimize system
     performance.
Power Management
     This tool automatically powers down drives that are not in use for a
     quieter, more energy efficient system.

Other Applications & Tools:

QuickScan
     QuickScan allows photos or images to be scanned and printed for
     immediate viewing or to be saved in one of several file formats.
SCSIBench and Drive Light
     To enhance or tune system performance, SCSIBench allows users to
     measure how their SCSI subsystems are performing under various system
     conditions. The drive light tool displays a visual graphic on the
     computer desktop to indicate disk activity.
SCSITutor
     SCSITutor provides users with information and diagrams on SCSI in
     easy-to-understand terms.

Pricing and Availability

Adaptec EZ-SCSI 4.0 software will be available to users through
distribution and directly through Adaptec for under $100 in October 1995.
Special upgrade pricing will be available for current Adaptec EZ-SCSI
users.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ed. Note:  The bad news is that even if you were to buy an Adaptec HA 
now (like myself, who just ordered a 3940), you still would have to pay 
for a $29 upgrade fee to EZSCSI 4.

Just a shot in the dark but ....try the compaq scsi controller
driver that MS provides. Go to new hardware in control, click 
manual selaect and go compaq

Just a shot in the dark but ....try the compaq scsi controller
driver that MS provides. Go to new hardware in control, click 
manual selaect and go compaq

Sytos Plus can recognize such devices.
What's the big deal, you just supply the IRQ at installation time?

I'm willing to try the demo after it is on your ftp or WWW site.

In article <decastroDE730t.yv@netcom.com>,
Richard A. De Castro <decastro@netcom.com> wrote:
>kaikow@standards.com writes:
>
>>Well, the problem is "almost every ...". I had an email interchange with 
>>someone at Novastor who did not seem to even understand that many SCSI 
>>tape drives are controlled by "on board" SCSI tape adapters for which 
>>there are no expliocitly loaded drivers in autoexec.bat or config.sys. An 
>>example is the Compaq 320/525 tape drive (it is actually a Wangtek 5525 
>>ES with a Compaq SCSI tape adapter (this uses an NCR chip set) in a 
>>separate slot). To use such tape drive adapter combinations, the backup 
>>software has to be smart enough to recognize such devices. I woul suspect 
>>that the Novastor product does detect many such dervices, but I was 
>>turned off by the fact that the Novastor person thought that all drives 
>>required si=ome driver to be loaded.
>
>If there's some backup software that can recognize your scsi 
>tape drive and the NCR chip in your compaq without an aspi driver,
>I'd like to know which.
>
>Many scsi controllers (the adaptec 1542, for example) can
>suppor one or two hard drives without drivers, but require
>them for cd-roms, tapes, etc.
>
>You can download a demo (time-limited) version ofNovaback for
>Windows 95 from the Novastor BBS, the filename is NBW95demo.exe.
>
>The BBS number is 805-579-6720.  Sorry we don't have FTP yet, 
>I'm working on it even as I type this.  It should be up
>by friday night, try ftp://novastor.com
>
>
>
>>I'd be happy to try the Novastor software if they could demonstrate that 
>>the tape drive I describe above is supported.
>
>>Is there a demo version that can be downloaded?
>
>
>>In article <decastroDE4q32.423@netcom.com>,
>>Richard A. De Castro <decastro@netcom.com> wrote:
>>>brian@fantasia.demon.co.uk (Brian Key) writes:
>>>
>>>>rodat@biggs.teuto.de (Henri Rodat) wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Gary Hammer <gary@hammer.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Wait until September!?  I prefer to have SOME backup, 
>>>>>>especially running a new OS.  I wish MS would bite the bullet 
>>>>>>and include SCSI compatibilty along with the QIC support.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>If you have an ADAPTEC - Controller and have EZ-SCSI, you can use it´s
>>>>>Win-Backup proggie. Not much of a program, but does the job...
>>>
>>>>But NOT with long filenames...
>>>
>>>At the risk of advertising (on my personal account), why not try the
>>>Novastor product?  $34.95, full 32-bit, full Win-95 support, works with
>>>almost every SCSI card and SCSI tape drive.  Send email to sales@novastor.com
>>>or check out their web page, which for now is at http://www.novastor.surfcty.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>Sorry for the advertising, I'll go now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-- 
>>>>brian@fantasia.demon.co.uk
>>>
>>>-- 
>>>============================================================================
>>>decastro@netcom.com      Warning:  I am a trained professional.  No, Really!
>>>Rick N6RCX NREMT ATP MA  Do Not try this yourself - it could get ugly......
>>>Richard A. De Castro -   To those who have defended it, Freedom has a flavor
>>>rickd@primenet.com 	 the Protected will never enjoy.  
>>>                         -Don't Tread On Me!-
>>>=============================================================================
>
>
>-- 
>============================================================================
>decastro@netcom.com      Warning:  I am a trained professional.  No, Really!
>Rick N6RCX NREMT ATP MA  Do Not try this yourself - it could get ugly......
>Richard A. De Castro -   To those who have defended it, Freedom has a flavor
>rickd@primenet.com 	 the Protected will never enjoy.  
>                         -Don't Tread On Me!-
>=============================================================================

 I searched for several days and did find a company that has a WIN95
backup system.  Their name is NovaStore, and the product is NovaBack
for WIN95.  DON'T BUY IT.   It cost $150 + S&H, which I jumped into.
It took 3 hours to backup and verify 400MB using a WangDAT 4mm DAT
tape, that use to take 17 minutes under DOS.
decastro@netcom.com (Richard A. De Castro) wrote:

>kaikow@standards.com writes:

>>Well, the problem is "almost every ...". I had an email interchange with 
>>someone at Novastor who did not seem to even understand that many SCSI 
>>tape drives are controlled by "on board" SCSI tape adapters for which 
>>there are no expliocitly loaded drivers in autoexec.bat or config.sys. An 
>>example is the Compaq 320/525 tape drive (it is actually a Wangtek 5525 
>>ES with a Compaq SCSI tape adapter (this uses an NCR chip set) in a 
>>separate slot). To use such tape drive adapter combinations, the backup 
>>software has to be smart enough to recognize such devices. I woul suspect 
>>that the Novastor product does detect many such dervices, but I was 
>>turned off by the fact that the Novastor person thought that all drives 
>>required si=ome driver to be loaded.

>If there's some backup software that can recognize your scsi 
>tape drive and the NCR chip in your compaq without an aspi driver,
>I'd like to know which.

>Many scsi controllers (the adaptec 1542, for example) can
>suppor one or two hard drives without drivers, but require
>them for cd-roms, tapes, etc.

>You can download a demo (time-limited) version ofNovaback for
>Windows 95 from the Novastor BBS, the filename is NBW95demo.exe.

>The BBS number is 805-579-6720.  Sorry we don't have FTP yet, 
>I'm working on it even as I type this.  It should be up
>by friday night, try ftp://novastor.com



>>I'd be happy to try the Novastor software if they could demonstrate that 
>>the tape drive I describe above is supported.

>>Is there a demo version that can be downloaded?


>>In article <decastroDE4q32.423@netcom.com>,
>>Richard A. De Castro <decastro@netcom.com> wrote:
>>>brian@fantasia.demon.co.uk (Brian Key) writes:
>>>
>>>>rodat@biggs.teuto.de (Henri Rodat) wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Gary Hammer <gary@hammer.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>Wait until September!?  I prefer to have SOME backup, 
>>>>>>especially running a new OS.  I wish MS would bite the bullet 
>>>>>>and include SCSI compatibilty along with the QIC support.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>If you have an ADAPTEC - Controller and have EZ-SCSI, you can use it´s
>>>>>Win-Backup proggie. Not much of a program, but does the job...
>>>
>>>>But NOT with long filenames...
>>>
>>>At the risk of advertising (on my personal account), why not try the
>>>Novastor product?  $34.95, full 32-bit, full Win-95 support, works with
>>>almost every SCSI card and SCSI tape drive.  Send email to sales@novastor.com
>>>or check out their web page, which for now is at http://www.novastor.surfcty.com/
>>>
>>>
>>>Sorry for the advertising, I'll go now.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>-- 
>>>>brian@fantasia.demon.co.uk
>>>
>>>-- 
>>>============================================================================
>>>decastro@netcom.com      Warning:  I am a trained professional.  No, Really!
>>>Rick N6RCX NREMT ATP MA  Do Not try this yourself - it could get ugly......
>>>Richard A. De Castro -   To those who have defended it, Freedom has a flavor
>>>rickd@primenet.com 	 the Protected will never enjoy.  
>>>                         -Don't Tread On Me!-
>>>=============================================================================


>-- 
>============================================================================
>decastro@netcom.com      Warning:  I am a trained professional.  No, Really!
>Rick N6RCX NREMT ATP MA  Do Not try this yourself - it could get ugly......
>Richard A. De Castro -   To those who have defended it, Freedom has a flavor
>rickd@primenet.com 	 the Protected will never enjoy.  
>                         -Don't Tread On Me!-
>=============================================================================

In article <426sgg$vhb@mindy.vnet.net>, rivey@vnet.net (Ray Ivey) writes:
> I searched for several days and did find a company that has a WIN95
>backup system.  Their name is NovaStore, and the product is NovaBack
>for WIN95.  DON'T BUY IT.   It cost $150 + S&H, which I jumped into.
>It took 3 hours to backup and verify 400MB using a WangDAT 4mm DAT
>tape, that use to take 17 minutes under DOS.
From the very begin of the threat I was wondering, why anybody'd 
have any problems with this: Since you have DOS anyway, just use DOS
backup packages....

SO PLEASE STOP THIS, will you???

Uwe


(BTW: I'm wondering why anybody'd like to backup the crap, but 
that's a different story......)

leinberger@axp621.gsi.de (Uwe Leinberger GSI Darmstadt) wrote:
>
>In article <426sgg$vhb@mindy.vnet.net>, rivey@vnet.net (Ray Ivey) writes:
>> I searched for several days and did find a company that has a WIN95
>>backup system.  Their name is NovaStore, and the product is NovaBack
>>for WIN95.  DON'T BUY IT.   It cost $150 + S&H, which I jumped into.
>>It took 3 hours to backup and verify 400MB using a WangDAT 4mm DAT
>>tape, that use to take 17 minutes under DOS.
>From the very begin of the threat I was wondering, why anybody'd 
>have any problems with this: Since you have DOS anyway, just use DOS
>backup packages....
>
>SO PLEASE STOP THIS, will you???
>
>Uwe
>
>
>(BTW: I'm wondering why anybody'd like to backup the crap, but 
>that's a different story......)

I thought I had read every possible level of drivel and 
stupidity in the possesion of humankind until your post, Uwe.  
It shows such total ignorance it is not worthy of another 
keystroke.
-- 

Roger A. Kendall
Music Perception and Cognition and Musical Acoustics Laboratory
UCLA

Has anybody answered the question? Does there exist any backup utility for
Windows 95 that you can run from an emergency floppy disk?

-rich

leinberger@axp621.gsi.de (Uwe Leinberger GSI Darmstadt) wrote:

>>......
>SO PLEASE STOP THIS, will you???


Stop what..????????
Ed Griffin (egriffin@shadow.net)

In article <42847e$129e@saba.info.ucla.edu>, Roger Kendall <Kendall@ucla.edu> writes:
>leinberger@axp621.gsi.de (Uwe Leinberger GSI Darmstadt) wrote:
>>
>From the very begin of the threat I was wondering, why anybody'd 
>>have any problems with this: Since you have DOS anyway, just use DOS
>>backup packages....
>>
>>SO PLEASE STOP THIS, will you???
>>
>>Uwe
>>
>>
>>(BTW: I'm wondering why anybody'd like to backup the crap, but 
>>that's a different story......)
>

You should have written :
 I thought I had      every possible level of drivel and
>I thought I had read every possible level of drivel and 
>stupidity in the possesion of humankind until your post, Uwe.  
>It shows such total ignorance it is not worthy of another 
>keystroke.
>-- 
>
>Roger A. Kendall
>Music Perception and Cognition and Musical Acoustics Laboratory
>UCLA
>
>
>
I have seen quite seriuos traffic about quite seriuos matters around seriuos 
computing here on comp.arch.storage. If you want to chatt about toys (good or 
bad) go to a group that fit's your taste and professionalism, but leave
this group alone. (and WinXXXXXXX from the very begin was a oy only, and a 
poor one...personal insults do NOT change this fact)

Uwe

Roger Kendall <Kendall@ucla.edu> wrote:

>>(BTW: I'm wondering why anybody'd like to backup the crap, but 
>>that's a different story......)

>I thought I had read every possible level of drivel and 
>stupidity in the possesion of humankind until your post, Uwe.  
>It shows such total ignorance it is not worthy of another 
>keystroke.
>-- 

>Roger A. Kendall

Roger

I had a good laugh reading your comment. Wished I could write English that
well ;)
I do think however.... that Mr. Uwe was not referring to "BACKUP" as such
but was trying to say that he considers "WIN95" to be such crap that it's
not worht backing up anyway ;^)
Whether that's true or not I cannot say because I wont try it for at least
another year. (Too much valuable data that needs daily backup.)   ;^)

Good show though.

bob

In article <llurch-0109951907450001@rosinante.stanford.edu>, llurch@Networking.Stanford.EDU (Rich Graves) says:
>
>Has anybody answered the question? Does there exist any backup utility for
>Windows 95 that you can run from an emergency floppy disk?
>
>-rich


Arcada Backup for Windows 95 won't be out for about a month yet, but it 
sounds like their software will work without having to re-install Win95
first.  Here is part of one of their faxback info documents I got from
them:

	In the unlikely event of a complete system failure, or disaster 
     recovery situation, Arcada Backup for Windows 95 provides a quick-fix 
     solution that enables you to reload your entire system to its most 
     current backup version.  The most significant benefit of the Arcada 
     Backup for Windows 95 data restore process is its ability to 
     automatically rebuild your system without first having to reinstall 
     the base operating system.


It does not mention anything about a boot disk, so I'm not exactly sure how
it goes about this.

The backup software that comes with Win95 preserves long file names,
but not to tapes.  I set my backup device to a HDD.  Backed up 220 megs
in 30 minutes, including a full compare.  The drive space required for
this was 128 megs with the MS backup compression.

Retailers locally are selling 1.2 gig HDDs for about $250.  Arcada's
list price will be $99.  Makes one think...
=========================================================================
jimwise@cris.com (Jim Wise) wrote:
>In article <llurch-0109951907450001@rosinante.stanford.edu>, llurch@Networking.Stanford.EDU (Rich Graves) says:
>>
>>Has anybody answered the question? Does there exist any backup utility for
>>Windows 95 that you can run from an emergency floppy disk?
>>
>>-rich
>
>
>Arcada Backup for Windows 95 won't be out for about a month yet, but it 
>sounds like their software will work without having to re-install Win95
>first.  Here is part of one of their faxback info documents I got from
>them:
>
>	In the unlikely event of a complete system failure, or disaster 
>     recovery situation, Arcada Backup for Windows 95 provides a quick-fix 
>     solution that enables you to reload your entire system to its most 
>     current backup version.  The most significant benefit of the Arcada 
>     Backup for Windows 95 data restore process is its ability to 
>     automatically rebuild your system without first having to reinstall 
>     the base operating system.
>
>
>It does not mention anything about a boot disk, so I'm not exactly sure how
>it goes about this.

>brian@fantasia.demon.co.uk (Brian Key) writes:

>At the risk of advertising (on my personal account), why not try the
>Novastor product?  $34.95, full 32-bit, full Win-95 support, works with
>almost every SCSI card and SCSI tape drive.  Send email to sales@novastor.com
>or check out their web page, which for now is at http://www.novastor.surfcty.com/
>
>
>Sorry for the advertising, I'll go now.
DL'd the demo, installed but it doesn't find my tape drive.  I checked
the support listing and my Sony SDT5000 is listed. I'm using a Pro
Audio Spectrum (nee Trantor) SCSI and PCT backup does find the unit in
dos, but no go in '95.  At one time the drive was listed in the device
manager as "Other device - SDT5000" but that was several device
change/reinstalls ago and an "Add new hardware" doesn't find it now. I
know it still works, I did a dos backup today.
     When I use the NovaStor tape setup program >> Add, the pick list
is blank.  No drive to choose, no seeming way to suggest the program
scan the SCSI bus for a device (that was how PCT located it), and no
way to manually devine a device. I'm stumped. I guess the stock answer
is to try an Adaptec controller. Heck, if I wait a bit I can probably
get the EZ-SCSI Win'95 backup program I've just read about here. 
     Any ideas are appreciated.

TIA
Lou Busch
lbusch@sojourn.com

   All the messages I've seen so far fail to say anything about 
supporting backup to Iomega Zip drives (parallel, in my case).  Any 
suggestions?

bill

Yea, verily in article <42847e$129e@saba.info.ucla.edu> did Kendall@ucla.edu 
speak unto us thusly:
>
>leinberger@axp621.gsi.de (Uwe Leinberger GSI Darmstadt) wrote:
>>
>>In article <426sgg$vhb@mindy.vnet.net>, rivey@vnet.net (Ray Ivey) writes:
>>> I searched for several days and did find a company that has a WIN95
>>>backup system.  Their name is NovaStore, and the product is NovaBack
>>>for WIN95.  DON'T BUY IT.   It cost $150 + S&H, which I jumped into.
>>>It took 3 hours to backup and verify 400MB using a WangDAT 4mm DAT
>>>tape, that use to take 17 minutes under DOS.
>>From the very begin of the threat I was wondering, why anybody'd 
>>have any problems with this: Since you have DOS anyway, just use DOS
>>backup packages....
>>
>>SO PLEASE STOP THIS, will you???
>>
>>Uwe
>>
>>
>>(BTW: I'm wondering why anybody'd like to backup the crap, but 
>>that's a different story......)
>
>I thought I had read every possible level of drivel and 
>stupidity in the possesion of humankind until your post, Uwe.  
>It shows such total ignorance it is not worthy of another 
>keystroke.
>-- 
>
>Roger A. Kendall
>Music Perception and Cognition and Musical Acoustics Laboratory
>UCLA
>
>
Hey Roger, don't beat about the bush - tell him what you REALLY think. <g>

Nice call.

-- 
 ______________________________________
                                      
  shg@waikato.ac.nz (Simon H. Garlick) 
       LIFE IS SHORT - FRAG HARD
 ______________________________________

leinberger@axp621.gsi.de (Uwe Leinberger GSI Darmstadt) schrieb:


>In article <426sgg$vhb@mindy.vnet.net>, rivey@vnet.net (Ray Ivey) writes:
>> I searched for several days and did find a company that has a WIN95
>>backup system.  Their name is NovaStore, and the product is NovaBack
>>for WIN95.  DON'T BUY IT.   It cost $150 + S&H, which I jumped into.
>>It took 3 hours to backup and verify 400MB using a WangDAT 4mm DAT
>>tape, that use to take 17 minutes under DOS.
>From the very begin of the threat I was wondering, why anybody'd 
>have any problems with this: Since you have DOS anyway, just use DOS
>backup packages....

Sorry, but i never saw a DOS backup running in the backgound, and
since tape drives are slow, and the backup process doesn´t need much
of the CPU time, it´s nice to have them under win95.

Get the thing?

CU, Martin.


                       \|/
                       @ @
-------------------oOO-(_)-OOo--------------------
Martin Schulten
email: martin.schulten@post.rwth-aachen.de
--------------------------------------------------
                    oOo   oOo

In article <426sgg$vhb@mindy.vnet.net>, rivey@vnet.net (Ray Ivey) wrote:

> I searched for several days and did find a company that has a WIN95
>backup system.  Their name is NovaStore, and the product is NovaBack
>for WIN95.  DON'T BUY IT.   It cost $150 + S&H, which I jumped into.
>It took 3 hours to backup and verify 400MB using a WangDAT 4mm DAT
>tape, that use to take 17 minutes under DOS.

I can't vouch for their software either.  I've been having problems with
their DOS and Windows 95 products.  I have an Exabyte 8500 which performs
just fine (Did about 1.3G in an hour) but when I tried to append another
volume, it couldn't find the end of the first volume.  Anyone else with
an Exabyte 8500 have this problem?  I have a friend with the same tape
backup and he's had the same problem with their DOS product.  He hasn't
tried their Windows 95 version yet.  Seems rather strange that it has
limited capabilities.  I've had no problems using backup software on any
other SCSI tape software.

Ping W Kwong (sac59485@saclink.csus.edu) wrote:
: In article <426sgg$vhb@mindy.vnet.net>, rivey@vnet.net (Ray Ivey) wrote:

: > I searched for several days and did find a company that has a WIN95
: >backup system.  Their name is NovaStore, and the product is NovaBack
: >for WIN95.  DON'T BUY IT.   It cost $150 + S&H, which I jumped into.
: >It took 3 hours to backup and verify 400MB using a WangDAT 4mm DAT
: >tape, that use to take 17 minutes under DOS.

I tried to use their OS/2 Presentation Manager software - well worth
avoiding.  Their command line stuff seems to work, but I'm still looking
for something better that supports my oddball drive.

Will
cwr@crash.cts.com

In article <42gpf9$d0_003@dialin.csus.edu>,
Ping W Kwong <sac59485@saclink.csus.edu> wrote:
>In article <426sgg$vhb@mindy.vnet.net>, rivey@vnet.net (Ray Ivey) wrote:
>
>> I searched for several days and did find a company that has a WIN95
>>backup system.  Their name is NovaStore, and the product is NovaBack
>>for WIN95.  DON'T BUY IT.   It cost $150 + S&H, which I jumped into.
>>It took 3 hours to backup and verify 400MB using a WangDAT 4mm DAT
>>tape, that use to take 17 minutes under DOS.
>
>I can't vouch for their software either.  I've been having problems with
>their DOS and Windows 95 products.  I have an Exabyte 8500 which performs
>just fine (Did about 1.3G in an hour) but when I tried to append another
>volume, it couldn't find the end of the first volume.  Anyone else with
>an Exabyte 8500 have this problem?  I have a friend with the same tape
>backup and he's had the same problem with their DOS product.  He hasn't
>tried their Windows 95 version yet.  Seems rather strange that it has
>limited capabilities.  I've had no problems using backup software on any
>other SCSI tape software.


From what I have seen, this seems to be a common issue with Novaback -
not being able to append additional volumes.

I believe there was some degree of discussion of this issue here a while
ago.



-- 

Phil Koenig                 Computers & Communications           pjk@netcom.com

	The best way I have found to backup my system is using tar. I found a 
tar out on the net that supports the aspi calls and also supports long file 
names. ( I think it is a hold over from being ported from unix.) It works at the
dos level as long as the aspi driver is loaded. This should be able to restore
 (not really restore but replace ) the files back to the hard disk from a 
floppy booted machine. There may be some holes in this plan because I have not
actually tried clearing off my hard drive and then replacing the files back. I 
am not up to speed on what hidden files need to be there or whatever.

	I figure it will get me by untill some good backup programs come out
for Win95. I am waiting on the release of EZ-SCSI from Adaptec it will be the
cheapest solution for me.

	By the way I have:
		586/75 16M
		850M EIDE HD
		Adaptec 2940 SCSI
		2x 540M SCSI HD
		Archive Viper 150 SCSI


			Jim Littlefield

In article <pjkDEG824.3zD@netcom.com>,
   pjk@netcom.com (Philip J. Koenig) wrote:

>From what I have seen, this seems to be a common issue with Novaback -
>not being able to append additional volumes.
>
>I believe there was some degree of discussion of this issue here a while
>ago.

Well I did complain about that quite a while back ago.  So far Novastor is
trying to address my problems as soon as I can get them all the info I can
that they're asking.  I remember calling Exabyte regarding the problem too
and they didn't have an answer.  Could be just uninformed tech support
though.

In article <42ibeg$3np@rational.rational.com>,
   jr@rational.com (Jim Littlefield) wrote:

>	I figure it will get me by untill some good backup programs come out
>for Win95. I am waiting on the release of EZ-SCSI from Adaptec it will be the
>cheapest solution for me.

Anyone know if CorelSCSI is planning an update?  I want to make sure my old
tape backup archives are still backwards compatible.

GBurrows@qctyno1.telecom.com.au (Glenby) wrote:


>I have used IBM dos7 which ships CP backup. This supports ASPI plus a couple of	
>other general drives.
>Works ok under 95. 

What exactly is ASPI? Is this something new to Win95?

I want to upgrade to Win95 but am a bit afraid of not being able to
recover from a disaster. From what I gather by reading this group,
Win95 provides a tape backup utility that'll work with my IOMEGA 250
that runs off of the floppy controller. What I want to know though is
what about restoring? If I can't boot the system, can I load a
compatible restore utility from diskette?
--
Chuck Hamilton
chuckh@ix.netcom.com

Incoming fire has the right of way!

jr@rational.com (Jim Littlefield) writes:


>	The best way I have found to backup my system is using tar. I found a 
>tar out on the net that supports the aspi calls and also supports long file 
>names. ( I think it is a hold over from being ported from unix.) It works at the
>dos level as long as the aspi driver is loaded. This should be able to restore
> (not really restore but replace ) the files back to the hard disk from a 
>floppy booted machine. There may be some holes in this plan because I have not
>actually tried clearing off my hard drive and then replacing the files back. I 
>am not up to speed on what hidden files need to be there or whatever.

>	I figure it will get me by untill some good backup programs come out
>for Win95. I am waiting on the release of EZ-SCSI from Adaptec it will be the
>cheapest solution for me.

Have you actually tried restoring one of those long file names from DOS?
And I don't mean in a DOS box under Windows.  Straight DOS does not support
long file names; anyone who writes a backup program must handle restoration
of lfn's internally.

Colin

In article <42m57h$js2@shellx.best.com>,
   ggates@sns-inc.com (Gregory Gates) wrote:
>I know you guys are having all sorts of problems under Win95, but there is 
>an easy solutions.  Copy all your files to tape using XCOPY.  Load up 
>Westec's TapeWORM product.  Your tape drive becomes a drive letter on your 
>computer and you copy all your files over.  Its fast, simple and handles 
>Win95 today.
>
>Yes, it does not handle long file names, but if you crash your system, 
>only Win95 uses long file names and you will have to reinstall anyway.  
>But your data is safe and you can copy it back off.

Good idea on the tape drive.

But Win 95 isn't the only entity that uses long file names. So do I! I'd hate 
to lose the associations on long file names. I COULD re-create them, but talk 
about a pain in the ...... 

Bill Horger
CJD Software

In article <42ks6j$eve@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>, chuckh@ix.netcom.com 
says...
>
>GBurrows@qctyno1.telecom.com.au (Glenby) wrote:
>
>
>>I have used IBM dos7 which ships CP backup. This supports ASPI plus a 
couple of        
>>other general drives.
>>Works ok under 95. 
>
>What exactly is ASPI? Is this something new to Win95?
>
>I want to upgrade to Win95 but am a bit afraid of not being able to
>recover from a disaster. From what I gather by reading this group,
>Win95 provides a tape backup utility that'll work with my IOMEGA 250
>that runs off of the floppy controller. What I want to know though is
>what about restoring? If I can't boot the system, can I load a
>compatible restore utility from diskette?
>--
>Chuck Hamilton
>chuckh@ix.netcom.com
>
>Incoming fire has the right of way!
>

ASPI is a generic interface for any SCSI host adapter.

I know you guys are having all sorts of problems under Win95, but there is 
an easy solutions.  Copy all your files to tape using XCOPY.  Load up 
Westec's TapeWORM product.  Your tape drive becomes a drive letter on your 
computer and you copy all your files over.  Its fast, simple and handles 
Win95 today.

Yes, it does not handle long file names, but if you crash your system, 
only Win95 uses long file names and you will have to reinstall anyway.  
But your data is safe and you can copy it back off.

If anything, just check our their web site: http://u-net.com/westec/

Gregory Gates (ggates@sns-inc.com) wrote:
: an easy solutions.  Copy all your files to tape using XCOPY.  Load up 
: Westec's TapeWORM product.  Your tape drive becomes a drive letter on your 
: computer and you copy all your files over.  Its fast, simple and handles 
: Win95 today.

And where an we get this TapeWORM program?

Thanks in advance.

Phil

Phil Haseltine (prh@hpuerca.atl.hp.com) wrote:
: Gregory Gates (ggates@sns-inc.com) wrote:
: : an easy solutions.  Copy all your files to tape using XCOPY.  Load up 
: : Westec's TapeWORM product.  Your tape drive becomes a drive letter on your 
: : computer and you copy all your files over.  Its fast, simple and handles 
: : Win95 today.

: And where an we get this TapeWORM program?

: Thanks in advance.

: Phil

Never mind...

Phil

>Good idea on the tape drive.

>But Win 95 isn't the only entity that uses long file names. So do I! I'd hate 
>to lose the associations on long file names. I COULD re-create them, but talk 
>about a pain in the ...... 

    That's what lfnbck.exe is for.  Long FileName BaCKup.  It make a
data file with long to 8.3 file name associations.  Once restored...
RTFM.

- Nelson ...

chuckh@ix.netcom.com (Chuck Hamilton) wrote:


>What exactly is ASPI? Is this something new to Win95?

ASPI is a standard for SCSI drivers invented by Adaptec.  It has nothing to do
with Windows 95.



>I want to upgrade to Win95 but am a bit afraid of not being able to
>recover from a disaster. From what I gather by reading this group,
>Win95 provides a tape backup utility that'll work with my IOMEGA 250
>that runs off of the floppy controller. What I want to know though is
>what about restoring? If I can't boot the system, can I load a
>compatible restore utility from diskette?

Get a better backup prog.  The built in one is garbage and has bugs that
prevent an emergency restore from working correctly.  If you have a Pentium 90
or better it will run at a decent speed ... 

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gary@hammer.org (Gary Hammer) wrote:

>   rodat@biggs.teuto.de (Henri Rodat) wrote:
>:If you have an ADAPTEC - Controller and have EZ-SCSI, you can use it´s
>:Win-Backup proggie. Not much of a program, but does the job...
>
>But it doesn't know about long file names.  So, your first restore will 
>trash your system.  Same for any other older disk utility.  Play with a 
>long filename with a DOS/Win 3.1 program, lose the long filename.

Adaptec is coming out with a new version of EZ-SCSI which will include
a new backup utility.  Check out their web page.

-Roger
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