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7 total messages Started by Ken McGlothlen Sun, 02 Aug 1992 20:15
The mythical 1GB card.
#9
Author: Ken McGlothlen
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1992 20:15
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Some weeks ago, the Seattle Times carried a front-page story on a storage
system which used a removable card (about the size and shape of a playing card,
only fairly thick) as media, and had a storage capacity of about a gigabyte.
The story went on to say that each card would cost around $20, and then went on
with some drivel about this person's opinion, that person's opinion, and the
inventor's opinion.

I've been eagerly watching comp.arch.storage for further discussion and
information about this thing, but there's been nary a peep.  The Seattle Times
hasn't mentioned it since, either.

Did anyone outside the Seattle area see such an article?  Does this thing
*really* exist?  Anyone have any idea when it's coming out, and how much the
subsystem is going to cost?  Is it a myth?  Hoax?  Or can I pick one up next
year for a PC?  Anybody?

				---Ken McGlothlen
				   mcglk@cpac.washington.edu
				   mcglk@cpac.bitnet
Re: The mythical 1GB card.
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Author: Michael O'Dell
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 1992 21:35
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the best we can do is stay tuned and wait. the best evidence is that
it isn't a hoax, but that it ain't quite ripe yet.  current rumors
indicate a read/write unit by the end of this (calendar) year.

	-Mike

Bellcore?? Bellcore isn't allowed opinions.  These be mine.
Re: The mythical 1GB card.
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Author: John Nagle
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1992 01:37
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       There have been a number of attempts at very high density, low
cost optical media, but none really work yet.  Remember THOR, the 
Tandy read/write compact disk unit?  They showed prototypes, but
apparently couldn't get the thing to work reliably in production
volume with low-cost blank media.  

					John Nagle
Re: The mythical 1GB card.
#12
Author: Jason P. Venner
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1992 07:16
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IN one of the recent Science News issues there is an article about
holographic storage. The article mentions storage and sizes in the
ball part for what you are discussing here.

In article <s_tm92.nagle@netcom.com> nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle) writes:

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   From: nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle)
   Date: Mon, 03 Aug 92 01:37:37 GMT
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	  There have been a number of attempts at very high density, low
   cost optical media, but none really work yet.  Remember THOR, the 
   Tandy read/write compact disk unit?  They showed prototypes, but
   apparently couldn't get the thing to work reliably in production
   volume with low-cost blank media.  

					   John Nagle
-- 
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jason@tfs.com		Trw Financial Systems
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Re: The mythical 1GB card.
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Author: Lawrence P. Schnitzer
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1992 14:18
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Access times anybody?  Is this the sort of thing that could be
used in a board level design in place of regular DRAM modules?
Re: The mythical 1GB card.
#13
Author: Dave Goldblatt
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1992 14:33
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On 3 Aug 92 01:37:37 GMT, nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle) said:

JN>        There have been a number of attempts at very high density,
JN> low cost optical media, but none really work yet.  Remember THOR,
JN> the Tandy read/write compact disk unit?  They showed prototypes,
JN> but apparently couldn't get the thing to work reliably in
JN> production volume with low-cost blank media.

My understanding of what happened to THOR was that Tandy ran into
patent problems with the dye they were using; someone had patented it
(for another purpose) and then wanted very large royalties per player.

Maybe someone from trsvax can shed some more light on it.. :-)

-dg-
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Re: The mythical 1GB card - ram or disk? disk....
#15
Author: Michael O'Dell
Date: Mon, 03 Aug 1992 19:05
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sorry - the rumors are that the device is a "disk", not a "ram."
by that i mean that it is block-organized in reasonable sized
lumps, read-write, and non-volitile.

however, if the block size was small enough (say 128 to 512 bytes),
the "seek time" small enough, and the transfer speeds high enough,
you might be able to play games with large caches with very wide
lines (finally - a real role for secondary caches).

all this is hearsay, however.  we will have to wait and see.
and maybe we will never know.....

	-Mike

Bellcore??? Bellcore isn't allowed opinions.  Any here are mine.
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