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Article #10760Re: IBM AS/400 is the world's slowest computer
From: Steven Kunkel
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:07
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:07
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In article <1992Dec20.221103.13995@ksmith.uucp>, keith@ksmith.uucp (Keith Smith) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec18.165950.15013@webo.dg.com> lewine@cheshirecat.webo.dg.com writes:
|> >IBM is currently running full-page Ads that claim "The AS/400
|> >is the world's most powerfull computer with the industry's best
|> >price/performance(*)"
|> >
|> >"(*) According to the TPC-C benchmark results published through
|> > 12/3/92"
|> >
|>
|> Yea, I laughed so hard my sides ached!
|>
|> >IBM does not point out the the AS/400 is the only computer with
|> >TPC-C results published as of 12/3/93. The AS/400 is also the
|> >world's slowest and most expensive computer by the same benchmark.
|>
|> Dog slow. But to the people who buy them they don't care. The fact is
|> the AS/400 runs their apps that they have ported up from S/3 cards for
|> the last 20 years, and they are too lazy to try something different, so
|> they pay, and pay, and pay....
|>
|> >
|> >Do people fall for this stuff? IBM claims that the AS/400 is the
|> >best selling mid-range system in the world, so someone must fall
|> >for it.
|>
|> Compile time for a 1000+ line program on a 486/33 w/8MB RAM using UNIBOL
|> RPG was about 8 times faster than an AS/400 B20 with 8MB RAM. Seconds
The B20 is the second smallest AS/400 ever shipped and was announced
4.5 years ago. The current largest model is about 20 times faster
(TPC-C type benchmark). The B20 is also a multi-user system. What
were the other 10 or 20 users doing when you compiled? Any batch
jobs running? TPC-C is a system benchmark. A compile is a CPU
benchmark. There is a different. The AS/400 system has a couple
(many hand fulls on the high end) of cheap, off-the-shelf micros
thrown in as a cost effect way of off loading I/O processing from
the CPU.
|> as opposed to minutes. Again, IBM will hold your ignorant MIS
|> departments hands from purchase, to setup to delivery. All they'll have
|> to is write even more indicator mad code that takes forever to run, that
|> will of course require an even bigger AS/400 (or perhaps a 486/33 with a
|> better compiler ...)
|>
|> If you own one, pray no one nukes the New England plant where all 100 or
|> so people that know AS/400 internals work.
|>
|> >--------------------------------------------------------------------
|> >Donald A. Lewine (508) 870-9008 Voice
|> >Data General Corporation (508) 366-0750 FAX
|> >4400 Computer Drive. MS D112A
|> >Westboro, MA 01580 U.S.A.
|> >
|> >uucp: uunet!dg!lewine Internet: lewine@cheshirecat.webo.dg.com
|>
|>
|> --
|> Keith Smith uunet!ksmith!keith 5719 Archer Rd.
|> Digital Designs BBS 1-919-423-4216 Hope Mills, NC 28348-2201
|> Somewhere in the Styx of North Carolina ...
--
Regards,
Steven Kunkel
Mail: IBM
3605 Hwy. 52 North
Rochester, MN 55901-7829
Phone: (507)253-0698
Email: kunkel@vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: Ya' know. What the lawyers need to see. I spoke, not IBM.
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Newsgroups: comp.arch Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!ames!agate!linus!philabs!acheron!scifi!watson!yktnews!admin!guinan!kunkel From: kunkel@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Steven Kunkel) Subject: Re: IBM AS/400 is the world's slowest computer Sender: news@rchland.ibm.com Message-ID: <1992Dec21.220736.27684@rchland.ibm.com> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:07:36 GMT Reply-To: kunkel@vnet.ibm.com Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM References: <1992Dec18.165950.15013@webo.dg.com> <1992Dec20.221103.13995@ksmith.uucp> Nntp-Posting-Host: guinan.rchland.ibm.com Organization: IBM Rochester Lines: 73