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Article #21563Re: Slandering Intel
From: John Mashey
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 1989 22:45
Date: Sat, 03 Jun 1989 22:45
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In article <4392@ficc.uu.net> peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) writes:
>But... isn't the truth an absolute defense against a charge of slander?
>Or is that libel?
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>Business: uunet.uu.net!ficc!peter, peter@ficc.uu.net, +1 713 274 5180.
OK, it's really time for this one to stop cold; in my opinion, this is
a new low for comp.arch. Although I often agree with Henry, the negative
comments on the Intel designers were: a) uncalled-for (OPINION), and
b) untrue (DATA to support this follows)
Data:
1) I know a fair number of people, who have proven track records
in this business, whose opinions I respect highly, who know and have
worked with Intel designers that they believe are very good.
2) At least one processor that Henry likes [MIPS R2000] was designed
by a team that included a fair number of [in my opinion, very good]
people who also worked on the X86s.....
3) Neither Henry nor Peter is obviously in a position to personally
evaluate the abilities of Intel or ex-Intel designers; certainly,
it is fact that neither of them is located anywhere near the several
places where such designers are usually found.
Opinion:
1) This doesn't mean I love the X86 architecture. I don't.
Even if I thought it was the worst architecture in the world, [I don't]
it would be foolish to believe that people who worked on it were
automatically bad. In my experience, although the best projects
seldom have many turkeys, even the worst giant turkeys of projects
usually have some good people.
In any case, X86s are not remotely near being giant turkeys.
2) Even if I sometimes disagree with their marketing claims, I'm
impressed that they make that architecture go as fast
as it does. It clearly takes hard work by smart people to do this.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!versatc!mips!mash From: mash@mips.COM (John Mashey) Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Slandering Intel Message-ID: <20993@winchester.mips.COM> Date: 3 Jun 89 22:45:09 GMT References: <182@mipos3.intel.com> <1989Jun2.163144.5197@utzoo.uucp> <4392@ficc.uu.net> Reply-To: mash@mips.COM (John Mashey) Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, CA Lines: 40