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Re: Authentication of Clients in a C/S environment

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From: Daniel S. Riley
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:18
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In article <19921122175106SEB1525@MVS.draper.com>,
SEB1525@MVS.draper.com (Steve Bacher) writes:
> In article <1992Nov20.032345.18307@kodak.kodak.com>,
> deal@tempus.Kodak.Com (Stephen M. Deal) writes:
> >Has anyone given much thought to client authentication on PCs and Macs?
> >Does anyone have any thoughts on how a server (DB  or otherwise) would
> >handle such a mechanism?
> 
> You may want to look at RFC 931, "Authentication server", which
> proposes a protocol for user authentication from remote clients.

Not for PCs and Macs he doesn't.  RFC931 only works with reasonably
trusted hosts; with PC class machines that are trivially subverted,
RFC931 is useless as an authentication protocol.  See the CAVEATS
sections of RFC931:

CAVEATS

   Unfortunately, the trustworthiness of the various host systems that
   might implement an authentication server will vary quite a bit.  It
   is up to the various applications that will use the server to
   determine the amount of trust they will place in the returned
   information.  It may be appropriate in some cases restrict the use of
   the server to within a locally controlled subnet.

For reliable client authentication on untrustworthy hosts, you really
need something like Kerberos.

-- 
-Dan Riley                          Internet: dsr@lns598.tn.cornell.edu
-Wilson Lab, Cornell University     HEPNET/SPAN: lns598::dsr (44630::dsr)
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Subject: Re: Authentication of Clients in a C/S environment
Date: 23 Nov 1992 15:18:41 -0500
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