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In article <alermanCqu3yo.G4q@netcom.com>,
Alexander Lerman <alerman@netcom.com> wrote:

>FOR SALE:Token Ring MAU (2 available): IBM 8228, $195
>         Token Ring MAU: Proteon ProNET-4, $195
>
>From the current Data Comm Warehouse catalog 1-800-328-2261
>
>IBM 8228 Multistation Access Units
>*Connects up to eight devices
>*Operates at 4 or 16 Mbps.
>
>With this MAU from IBM, you can connect up to eight network devices to your 
>IBM Token Ring Network. Installing the MAU is easy, too. Just plug computer 
>cables into the MAU, connect the MAU to other 8228 or 8230 units, and form a 
>network. You can even connect the MAUs in series and support up to 260 systems 
>per Token Ring. The unit operates at 4 or 16 Mbps using copper cables and 
>requires no external power source.... $455
>
>My price is $195 each. They're like-new and guaranteed.
>
>I also have a Proteon ProNET-4 MAU for $195. I don't have the specs
>handy for this unit.
>
>Please call Alexander Lerman 9am-5pm PST at (415) 666-3333 to
>order or inquire. Thanks for your attention.
>
>-- 
>Alexander Lerman         <alerman@netcom.com>         (415) 666-3333 voice





Yes, an excellent price.  Did you know IBM sells these in their mail-
order catalog for ~$600-700 or so?

I _also_ have an 8228 for sale in the same condition, in the box, complete
with the little plastic "wire loom".  It is marked "For United Kingdom
use only", which I was told by an ISSC (IBM Consulting Div.) consultant
is just a formality.  8228's are essentially passive devices.
Price:  $195/bo.   I'm sure all of these will go fast...    :-)



Phil Koenig
pjk@netcom.com
phil.koenig@comsec.org

In article <pjkCqvBts.J0I@netcom.com> pjk@netcom.com "Phil Koenig" writes:

} I _also_ have an 8228 for sale in the same condition, in the box, complete
} with the little plastic "wire loom".  It is marked "For United Kingdom
} use only", which I was told by an ISSC (IBM Consulting Div.) consultant
} is just a formality.  8228's are essentially passive devices.
} Price:  $195/bo.   I'm sure all of these will go fast...    :-)

I suggest you get your "consultant" to do a bit more practical
work.

Opening an 8228 will reveal hundereds of electronic components,
it is some years since I have done this but I would regard
        40 pnp transistors
       120 capacitors
        30 coils
      200+ resistors
    and 80 diodes

plus of courese 8 relays an NOT "essentially passive devices"

Doesn't mean they don't work well or that your price isn't great,
just an observation on the glibness of some "experts"

Regards   {} {} {}   Richard   {} {} {}   TEAM OS/2
--
richard@corixia.demon.co.uk
This opinion belongs to the Company and is probably not my own.
Richard_Ashton@vnet.ibm.com             I do not speak for IBM

In article <770741333snz@corixia.demon.co.uk>,
Richard Ashton <richard@corixia.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <pjkCqvBts.J0I@netcom.com> pjk@netcom.com "Phil Koenig" writes:
>
>
>Opening an 8228 will reveal hundereds of electronic components,
>it is some years since I have done this but I would regard
>        40 pnp transistors
>       120 capacitors
>        30 coils
>      200+ resistors
>    and 80 diodes
>
>plus of courese 8 relays an NOT "essentially passive devices"


I have seen the inside of an 8228.  And you're right.

Perhaps I misused the term "passive".  I meant to refer to the fact
that there is virtually no safety or electrical issues re: the label
supposedly limiting use to a particular country.  Since the only
connection is to the Token Ring itself, there are no issues re:
connecting to power or equipment external to the Ring.  Therefore,
since Token Rings are identical around the world, it would be completely
interchangeable and usable.


>Doesn't mean they don't work well or that your price isn't great,
>just an observation on the glibness of some "experts"


I appreciate the chance to clarify myself.   :-)



Phil Koenig
pjk@netcom.com


>Regards   {} {} {}   Richard   {} {} {}   TEAM OS/2
>--
>richard@corixia.demon.co.uk
>This opinion belongs to the Company and is probably not my own.
>Richard_Ashton@vnet.ibm.com             I do not speak for IBM

Phil Koenig (pjk@netcom.com) wrote:
: In article <alermanCqu3yo.G4q@netcom.com>,
: Alexander Lerman <alerman@netcom.com> wrote:

: >FOR SALE:Token Ring MAU (2 available): IBM 8228, $195
: >         Token Ring MAU: Proteon ProNET-4, $195
: >
: >From the current Data Comm Warehouse catalog 1-800-328-2261
: >
: >IBM 8228 Multistation Access Units
: >*Connects up to eight devices
: >*Operates at 4 or 16 Mbps.
: >
: >With this MAU from IBM, you can connect up to eight network devices to your 
: >IBM Token Ring Network. Installing the MAU is easy, too. Just plug computer 
: >cables into the MAU, connect the MAU to other 8228 or 8230 units, and form a 
: >network. You can even connect the MAUs in series and support up to 260 systems 
: >per Token Ring. The unit operates at 4 or 16 Mbps using copper cables and 
: >requires no external power source.... $455
: >
: >My price is $195 each. They're like-new and guaranteed.
: >
: >I also have a Proteon ProNET-4 MAU for $195. I don't have the specs
: >handy for this unit.
: >
: >Please call Alexander Lerman 9am-5pm PST at (415) 666-3333 to
: >order or inquire. Thanks for your attention.
: >
: >-- 
: >Alexander Lerman         <alerman@netcom.com>         (415) 666-3333 voice





: Yes, an excellent price.  Did you know IBM sells these in their mail-
: order catalog for ~$600-700 or so?

: I _also_ have an 8228 for sale in the same condition, in the box, complete
: with the little plastic "wire loom".  It is marked "For United Kingdom
: use only", which I was told by an ISSC (IBM Consulting Div.) consultant
: is just a formality.  8228's are essentially passive devices.
: Price:  $195/bo.   I'm sure all of these will go fast...    :-)

I just acquired some more of these, and I'd like to move them fast.
As a result, I will sell all five for the ridiculously low price
of $99 each. $145 in singles. First come, first serve. (415) 666-3333.


-- 
Alexander Lerman         <alerman@netcom.com>         (415) 666-3333 voice