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In article <slrn7ej45a.6bf.ese002@spica.exile.org>,
	ese002@news9.exile.org (Eric Edwards) writes:
> On 12 Mar 1999 20:30:06 GMT, Miguel Cruz <mnc@diana.law.yale.edu> wrote:
>>Eric Edwards <ese002@news9.exile.org> wrote:
>>>IMHO, it's the difference between:
>>>
>>>1) ISP1 <-> MAE <-> ISP2
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>2) ISP1 <-> BACKBONE1 <-> MAE <-> BACKBONE2 <-> ISP2
>>>
>>>and
>>>
>>>3) ISP1 <-> BACKBONE1 <-> Private Peer <-> BACKBONE2 <-> ISP2
>>
>>I don't see how #1 isn't an apple to #2 and #3's oranges, unless your ISP
>>also provides the service of flying your clients and servers to the same
>>city so they don't have to go through a backbone.
> 
> Well, this *is* ba.internet.  

And ... 

> Clients and servers *are* often in the same city.  

And not necessarily connected to the internet in the same way.

> The exchanges work well in those cases.  

The MAE's work pretty well.  Are they overloaded?  Sure they are.  That just 
indicates the demand for connectivity.  And that demand has occurred rapidly.

> It's a bit fuzzier for large ISP's with private backbones (like Concentric).
> I expect backbones that wish to provide service for other ISP's to use 
> private peering.

It might be fuzzier for you.  The main reason for the appearance of peering
points like the PacBell NAP's is to help avoid a meltdown at MAE West.  It's
overcrowded because everybody and their dog wants to peer there.  Because it's
such a popular place to peer and the area around the Greater Silicon Valley
is so densely occupied with connected sites it makes sense to spread out
the connectivity when it works well.  If it weren't for the offloading of
connectivity around MAE West the site would have melted years ago.  That has
little to do with being a 'Real "tier 1" backbone bandwidth provider'.

The idea that 'Real backbones" don't connect where the connecting is
happening is pretty strange.  Real backbones connect to a lot of places.

Paul
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