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Article #483Re: cable guy "vapor"-izes DSL 3X cable TV troll!
From: Lawrence Baldwin
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:37
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 14:37
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> <sigh> It's not just "one porn server" -- that's disingenuous spin by > cable MSO's. Data is data -- the problem is the same whether > subscribers are running a webcam, uploading big PowerPoint > presentations, mailing family photo albums, and/or mailing home videos. > > Regardless, typically no one cable user can use a disproportionate share > of capacity in any event Due to slotting/throttling algorithms, I assume. >-- the issue is the total usage of the uplink > and the lack of graceful degradation at the point of saturation. Understand. What is the typical *total* amount of upstream bandwidth avail on a given segment? We're getting closer to the key metric to compare cable with DSL: *Upstream oversubscription rate* If you look at ADSL at two different layers you get the following: (Alcatel DSLAM has 576 ports, 256Kbps upstream cap, 45Mbps DS3 uplink) Cust -> DSLAM: 576 * 256,000bps / 45,000,000 that's 3.2:1 (Aggregation router port might terminate 2-4K subs, 256Kbps upstream cap, 45Mbps DS3 uplink) 2K: Cust -> Aggregation Rtr: 2000 * 256,000bps / 45,000,000 = 11:1 4K: Cust -> Aggregation Rtr: 4000 * 256,000bps / 45,000,000 = 22:1 So uplink oversubscriptiong is effectively somewhere between 10:1 and 25:1. How do you think this plays out for cable modem? -- ------------------------- Lawrence Baldwin Protocol Scientist 678-624-0924 http://www.mynetwatchman.com - I'm under attack, now what?
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