🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: comp.dcom.modems.cable
Article #482

Re: Do proxy server cache improve the broadband experience?

#482
From: jP
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 02:08
37 lines
3237 bytes
"Randy S." wrote:

> > Another important point is that putting the load on
> > the proxy instead of the transit pipe tends to improve throughput for
> > all subscribers; i.e., not using the proxy can be selfish and
> > counterproductive.
>
> You know, this is a fascinating way of putting this.  I was just reading up on a
> concept in capitalism called the "tragedy of the commons" which eerily seems to
> apply in this case.  The "tragedy of the commons" refers to the situation where
> many small independent entities are using and are reliant on one large but limited
> shared resource.  Usually it is used to refer to situations like shared market
> fishing populations (like Tuna or mackeral) or shared grazing land,etc, but it
> seems equally applicable to shared backbone bandwidth.  Basically, the concept
> claims that this situation is always doomed for failure because the small
> independent entities will always put their own needs and priorities over the needs
> and priorities of the whole, thus putting the entire shared resource at risk (i.e.
> over-fishing, over-grazing).  It seems here that as Lawrence says, it may be
> better for any individual user to NOT be on a cache server for his/her personal
> performance.  But, as John says, it is better for the resource OVERALL if everyone
> uses the cache server.
>
> I don't know if really solves anything (and I am far from an expert on the
> "tragedy of the commons" concept, any economists out there?), but I thought it was
> an interesting parallel.
>
> Randy S.

While self interest may cause the "tragedy of commons" the same self interest will
solve the "tragedy etc". when the tragedy is realized  people with a self interest
will come together to agree on ways to prevent the tragedy:  to wit -- use a cache
server.

That being said, how do I find out if I'm on a cache server and if not what do I do to
get on one, assuming of course, that I don't want to remain selfish.

Jack
Technical Details
Message-ID: <3A88970F.2FD82198@yahoo.com>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!falcon.america.net!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.atl!news1.mco.POSTED!not-for-mail
References: <Kksh6.220290$y9.36296332@typhoon.we.rr.com> <3A870DC7.E8678FFE@mynetwatchman.com> <SmKh6.2267$S25.17580@typhoon.sonic.net> <3A87FD80.504F203A@ufl.edu>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
X-Google-Thread: 1122a6,e88ea5e38fc300b9
X-Google-Attributes: gid1122a6,public
X-Google-Thread: 113850,828b09f3ded313cb
X-Google-Attributes: gid113850,public
X-Google-Thread: f5dc1,e88ea5e38fc300b9
X-Google-Attributes: gidf5dc1,public
X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-02-12 18:14:59 PST
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!falcon.america.net!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.atl!news1.mco.POSTED!not-for-mail
Message-ID: <3A88970F.2FD82198@yahoo.com>
From: jP <jpantelias_17@yahoo.com>
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U)
X-Accept-Language: en
MIME-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems.cable,comp.dcom.xdsl,bellsouth.net.support.adsl
Subject: Re: Do proxy server cache improve the broadband experience?
References: <Kksh6.220290$y9.36296332@typhoon.we.rr.com> <3A870DC7.E8678FFE@mynetwatchman.com> <SmKh6.2267$S25.17580@typhoon.sonic.net> <3A87FD80.504F203A@ufl.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Lines: 39
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:08:15 -0500
NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.61.164.10
X-Trace: news1.mco 982030139 208.61.164.10 (Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:08:59 EST)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:08:59 EST