Article View: comp.dcom.modems.cable
Article #541Re: New cox cable managed network
From: Derek M. Loseke
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 06:23
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 06:23
299 lines
11177 bytes
11177 bytes
By the way, what does "You consider to show your lack of knowledge in this area." mean exactly. I'm no english major, but that doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Derek "PC Medic" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message news:wsPa8.6174$SJ3.212199@news1.east.cox.net... > You consider to show your lack of knowledge in this area. > > P.S. > If you were familiar with Cox's services you could tell from the headers I > have converted. > And if you were familiar with mail bots you would know they love to scour > the newsgroups for email addresses within postings. > No, thanks, think I'll continue using the same fake email address I used > when posting via the @home service. > > > "Derek M. Loseke" <spamderek@cox.net> wrote in message > news:qdIa8.4135$SJ3.169803@news1.east.cox.net... > > Hmm....perhaps not.... > > > > The MAC address is vital to any piece of networked hardware. It is on the > > second level (Network Layer) of the OSI model and is necessary for packet > > communication. > > > > However, the modem's serial number is what is used when provisioning the > > modem onto the Cox Network. > > > > Even the old cybersurfer modem from Motoroal are provisioned by the serial > > number. > > > > Derek > > > > PS: You ought to convert your email to Cox.net before the 28th. And if > you > > already have, you could at lease update your email address in your > newsgroup > > settings. > > > > > > "PC Medic" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message > > news:qPxa8.2968$SJ3.111454@news1.east.cox.net... > > > > > > "Derek M. Loseke" <spamderek@cox.net> wrote in message > > > news:MUZ98.7520$zb.402377@news1.east.cox.net... > > > > They didn't use the MAC address, except on certain modems. This > doesn't > > > > include Motorola and Toshiba. They instead use the serial number. > > > > > > > > Why do you question the "Cox Contractor" part? I am a contractor for > > Cox. > > > > > > > > Derek > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps it has to do with your lack of knowledge with regards to MAC > usage > > > and DNS/NetBIOS names. > > > > > > > "PC Medic" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message > > > > news:ggS68.7796$Xk4.425111@news1.east.cox.net... > > > > > Actually Cox@Home did use a MAC address, that of the modem, just as > > Cox > > > > > continues to do now on their own network. Also, the NetBios name and > > DNS > > > > > names are two different things, and while @Home used the computer > name > > > for > > > > > IP assigning the new Cox managed network does not. > > > > > > > > > > Cox Contractor??????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Derek M. Loseke" <spamderek@cox.net> wrote in message > > > > > news:dQo68.4657$Xk4.242975@news1.east.cox.net... > > > > > > Actually, @Home didn't use MAC Addresses, at least on on the Cox > > > > network. > > > > > > For Cox, they used the NetBios (DNS) Name to reserve IP Addresses. > > > The > > > > > MAC > > > > > > address had nothing to do with it on the Cox network, and I > imagine > > > that > > > > > is > > > > > > also true for Comcast and AT&T. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, the software doesn't detect all NIC's. It has nothing to do > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > Modem. However, we do have some problems with the old CyberSurf > > > modems. > > > > > > They should work however. As long as your modem comes online, > > > > everything > > > > > is > > > > > > cool. As for the software, it doesn't make a diference....you > don't > > > > need > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Derek > > > > > > Cox Contractor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Suellen" <Suellen_Stewart@msn.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:bc5b60f8.0201272107.82cbac8@posting.google.com... > > > > > > > I'm fairly certain that the migration had taken place, because I > > > > > > > initially did receive an IP address in the 68.xxx.xxx.xxx range, > > > > > > > before it reverted back to the old one in the 65.xxx.xxx.xxx > > range. > > > > > > > Whatever the explanation was, I have reverted to the correct > > > settings > > > > > > > (using DHCP)and everything is working for now. I am interested > in > > > your > > > > > > > statement that they "had to do something on their end." I know > > that > > > > > > > @home had a setup that required you to register the mac address > of > > a > > > > > > > new adapter if you changed your hardware, but that cox is not > > > supposed > > > > > > > to be set up that way. That seems to be confirmed by the fact > that > > I > > > > > > > can switch my laptop for the desktop that's normally attached to > > the > > > > > > > cable modem, and it will work. HOWEVER - tonight I tried to help > a > > > > > > > friend set up the same way. I did the conversion on her old > > > computer, > > > > > > > and that went fine. Then I tried to substitute her new Dell > > Inspiron > > > > > > > laptop for the old desktop, and the Cox software kept insisting > > that > > > > > > > it couldn't detect a NIC. This in spite of the fact that all the > > > modem > > > > > > > lights were flashing, ipconfig showed a good IP address and > > gateway, > > > > > > > and the status box for her NIC (in Windows XP) showed a good bit > > of > > > > > > > data being sent and received. I never did the browser and email > > > > > > > working. Tried to call tech support and see if they needed to > > change > > > > > > > something, but no luck getting through. I'm also wondering > whether > > > the > > > > > > > surfboard modem she's renting from Cox is compatible with > Windows > > > XP. > > > > > > > It looks pretty old - you can't even read a model number on it. > > Any > > > > > > > suggestions would be appreciated, since getting through to Cox > > Tech > > > > > > > Support seems about impossible right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Martin J Piraino" <martinjp@cox.net> wrote in message > > > > > > news:<m_V48.3805$zR3.251588@news2.east.cox.net>... > > > > > > > > I wonder if your area had converted over to the new network > yet, > > > if > > > > > not > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > there wasn't a problem. Just because you install the software > > > > doesn't > > > > > > mean > > > > > > > > your IP address will change immediately, mine didn't. I > wondered > > > the > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > thing after I installed the software and called to ask about > it, > > > > they > > > > > > told > > > > > > > > me that the migration to the cox.net backbone wouldn't take > > place > > > > till > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > friday night in my area. I'd recieved the conversion kit and > > > > installed > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > that monday. If you keep the settings the way you have them > now > > > you > > > > > may > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > problems in the future. I'd just leave it to DHCP, and obtain > > IP > > > > > > address > > > > > > > > automatically and remove proxys from the web browser. You > said > > > you > > > > > got > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > new IP address after converting, was it on the 68.XXX.XXX.XXX > or > > > > > > > > 24.XXX.XXX.XXX? I had problems where for about a day I kept > > > getting > > > > an > > > > > > IP > > > > > > > > address in the private IP range of 169.XXX.XXX.XXX or > > > 10.XXX.XXX.XXX > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > annoyed me because I was getting the DNS numbers for cox.net > > right > > > > but > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > IP refused to change to one where I would have a net > connection. > > I > > > > > > finally > > > > > > > > called them and they did something to fix it on their end > > because > > > > when > > > > > I > > > > > > > > rebooted it was again a 68.XXX.XXX.XXX address.. one that I've > > had > > > > > since > > > > > > > > that time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Suellen" <Suellen_Stewart@msn.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:bc5b60f8.0201170659.1fb61766@posting.google.com... > > > > > > > > > Lloyd, > > > > > > > > > I wonder if you can give me a clue as to what happened in > this > > > > case: > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > followed Cox's "migration" instructions, used the CD and > > loaded > > > > the > > > > > > > > > software. Once everything was working, I uninstalled all the > > Cox > > > > > > > > > software. The next time I rebooted there was no connection, > > and > > > > > > > > > ipconfig revealed that I was set back to my old @home ip > > > address. > > > > I > > > > > > > > > manually entered the new ip address and gateway (that I had > > > > received > > > > > > > > > after converting) in the "alternate" tab in tcp/ip > properties, > > > and > > > > > > > > > regained the connection. It's been good for about 12 hours > > now, > > > > but > > > > > > > > > I'm wondering how long this will last considering ip > addresses > > > are > > > > > > > > > supposed to expire every four hours with the Cox system. . . > > > > (using > > > > > > > > > Windows XP). > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any info. you can provide! > > > > > > > > > Suellen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<dP1b8.8248$SJ3.289430@news1.east.cox.net>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!hub1.nntpserver.com!peer1-sjc1.usenetserver.com!usenetserver.com!newsfeeds-atl1.usenetserver.com!cox.net!news1.east.cox.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mailReferences:
<I0VX7.10375$B61.4953680@news1.rsm1.occa.home.com> <3C314C9C.DEDF0FCC@reece.net> <82lY7.33203$K36.11443500@news1.rdc1.va.home.com> <3C334AC0.7C6370B@reece.net> <bc5b60f8.0201170659.1fb61766@posting.google.com> <m_V48.3805$zR3.251588@news2.east.cox.net> <bc5b60f8.0201272107.82cbac8@posting.google.com> <dQo68.4657$Xk4.242975@news1.east.cox.net> <ggS68.7796$Xk4.425111@news1.east.cox.net> <MUZ98.7520$zb.402377@news1.east.cox.net> <qPxa8.2968$SJ3.111454@news1.east.cox.net> <qdIa8.4135$SJ3.169803@news1.east.cox.net> <wsPa8.6174$SJ3.212199@news1.east.cox.net>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 113850,a7865c87070b0fcc X-Google-Attributes: gid113850,public X-Google-Thread: 1136e3,710aa4d82544bdbb X-Google-Attributes: gid1136e3,public X-Google-Thread: 10f392,a7865c87070b0fcc X-Google-Attributes: gid10f392,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-02-14 22:23:10 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!hub1.nntpserver.com!peer1-sjc1.usenetserver.com!usenetserver.com!newsfeeds-atl1.usenetserver.com!cox.net!news1.east.cox.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "Derek M. Loseke" <spamderek@cox.net> Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems.cable,cableinet.cable_modems,cox.internet.discussion.athomeconversion References: <I0VX7.10375$B61.4953680@news1.rsm1.occa.home.com> <3C314C9C.DEDF0FCC@reece.net> <82lY7.33203$K36.11443500@news1.rdc1.va.home.com> <3C334AC0.7C6370B@reece.net> <bc5b60f8.0201170659.1fb61766@posting.google.com> <m_V48.3805$zR3.251588@news2.east.cox.net> <bc5b60f8.0201272107.82cbac8@posting.google.com> <dQo68.4657$Xk4.242975@news1.east.cox.net> <ggS68.7796$Xk4.425111@news1.east.cox.net> <MUZ98.7520$zb.402377@news1.east.cox.net> <qPxa8.2968$SJ3.111454@news1.east.cox.net> <qdIa8.4135$SJ3.169803@news1.east.cox.net> <wsPa8.6174$SJ3.212199@news1.east.cox.net> Subject: Re: New cox cable managed network Lines: 301 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <dP1b8.8248$SJ3.289430@news1.east.cox.net> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 06:23:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.13.20.92 X-Complaints-To: abuse@cox.net X-Trace: news1.east.cox.net 1013754185 68.13.20.92 (Fri, 15 Feb 2002 01:23:05 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 01:23:05 EST Organization: Cox Communications