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Article #540Re: New cox cable managed network
From: Derek M. Loseke
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 06:21
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 06:21
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I did notice from the headers that you are in fact using the cox servers, but you're account address had not been changed. I did consider the fact that it may be a fake address. Incidentally, if you installed the conversion software to convert from @Home, may your god have mercy on your sould. :-) Derek "PC Medic" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message news:wsPa8.6174$SJ3.212199@news1.east.cox.net... > You consider to show your lack of knowledge in this area. > > P.S. > If you were familiar with Cox's services you could tell from the headers I > have converted. > And if you were familiar with mail bots you would know they love to scour > the newsgroups for email addresses within postings. > No, thanks, think I'll continue using the same fake email address I used > when posting via the @home service. > > > "Derek M. Loseke" <spamderek@cox.net> wrote in message > news:qdIa8.4135$SJ3.169803@news1.east.cox.net... > > Hmm....perhaps not.... > > > > The MAC address is vital to any piece of networked hardware. It is on the > > second level (Network Layer) of the OSI model and is necessary for packet > > communication. > > > > However, the modem's serial number is what is used when provisioning the > > modem onto the Cox Network. > > > > Even the old cybersurfer modem from Motoroal are provisioned by the serial > > number. > > > > Derek > > > > PS: You ought to convert your email to Cox.net before the 28th. And if > you > > already have, you could at lease update your email address in your > newsgroup > > settings. > > > > > > "PC Medic" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message > > news:qPxa8.2968$SJ3.111454@news1.east.cox.net... > > > > > > "Derek M. Loseke" <spamderek@cox.net> wrote in message > > > news:MUZ98.7520$zb.402377@news1.east.cox.net... > > > > They didn't use the MAC address, except on certain modems. This > doesn't > > > > include Motorola and Toshiba. They instead use the serial number. > > > > > > > > Why do you question the "Cox Contractor" part? I am a contractor for > > Cox. > > > > > > > > Derek > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps it has to do with your lack of knowledge with regards to MAC > usage > > > and DNS/NetBIOS names. > > > > > > > "PC Medic" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message > > > > news:ggS68.7796$Xk4.425111@news1.east.cox.net... > > > > > Actually Cox@Home did use a MAC address, that of the modem, just as > > Cox > > > > > continues to do now on their own network. Also, the NetBios name and > > DNS > > > > > names are two different things, and while @Home used the computer > name > > > for > > > > > IP assigning the new Cox managed network does not. > > > > > > > > > > Cox Contractor??????? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Derek M. Loseke" <spamderek@cox.net> wrote in message > > > > > news:dQo68.4657$Xk4.242975@news1.east.cox.net... > > > > > > Actually, @Home didn't use MAC Addresses, at least on on the Cox > > > > network. > > > > > > For Cox, they used the NetBios (DNS) Name to reserve IP Addresses. > > > The > > > > > MAC > > > > > > address had nothing to do with it on the Cox network, and I > imagine > > > that > > > > > is > > > > > > also true for Comcast and AT&T. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, the software doesn't detect all NIC's. It has nothing to do > > > with > > > > > the > > > > > > Modem. However, we do have some problems with the old CyberSurf > > > modems. > > > > > > They should work however. As long as your modem comes online, > > > > everything > > > > > is > > > > > > cool. As for the software, it doesn't make a diference....you > don't > > > > need > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Derek > > > > > > Cox Contractor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Suellen" <Suellen_Stewart@msn.com> wrote in message > > > > > > news:bc5b60f8.0201272107.82cbac8@posting.google.com... > > > > > > > I'm fairly certain that the migration had taken place, because I > > > > > > > initially did receive an IP address in the 68.xxx.xxx.xxx range, > > > > > > > before it reverted back to the old one in the 65.xxx.xxx.xxx > > range. > > > > > > > Whatever the explanation was, I have reverted to the correct > > > settings > > > > > > > (using DHCP)and everything is working for now. I am interested > in > > > your > > > > > > > statement that they "had to do something on their end." I know > > that > > > > > > > @home had a setup that required you to register the mac address > of > > a > > > > > > > new adapter if you changed your hardware, but that cox is not > > > supposed > > > > > > > to be set up that way. That seems to be confirmed by the fact > that > > I > > > > > > > can switch my laptop for the desktop that's normally attached to > > the > > > > > > > cable modem, and it will work. HOWEVER - tonight I tried to help > a > > > > > > > friend set up the same way. I did the conversion on her old > > > computer, > > > > > > > and that went fine. Then I tried to substitute her new Dell > > Inspiron > > > > > > > laptop for the old desktop, and the Cox software kept insisting > > that > > > > > > > it couldn't detect a NIC. This in spite of the fact that all the > > > modem > > > > > > > lights were flashing, ipconfig showed a good IP address and > > gateway, > > > > > > > and the status box for her NIC (in Windows XP) showed a good bit > > of > > > > > > > data being sent and received. I never did the browser and email > > > > > > > working. Tried to call tech support and see if they needed to > > change > > > > > > > something, but no luck getting through. I'm also wondering > whether > > > the > > > > > > > surfboard modem she's renting from Cox is compatible with > Windows > > > XP. > > > > > > > It looks pretty old - you can't even read a model number on it. > > Any > > > > > > > suggestions would be appreciated, since getting through to Cox > > Tech > > > > > > > Support seems about impossible right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Martin J Piraino" <martinjp@cox.net> wrote in message > > > > > > news:<m_V48.3805$zR3.251588@news2.east.cox.net>... > > > > > > > > I wonder if your area had converted over to the new network > yet, > > > if > > > > > not > > > > > > then > > > > > > > > there wasn't a problem. Just because you install the software > > > > doesn't > > > > > > mean > > > > > > > > your IP address will change immediately, mine didn't. I > wondered > > > the > > > > > > same > > > > > > > > thing after I installed the software and called to ask about > it, > > > > they > > > > > > told > > > > > > > > me that the migration to the cox.net backbone wouldn't take > > place > > > > till > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > friday night in my area. I'd recieved the conversion kit and > > > > installed > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > that monday. If you keep the settings the way you have them > now > > > you > > > > > may > > > > > > have > > > > > > > > problems in the future. I'd just leave it to DHCP, and obtain > > IP > > > > > > address > > > > > > > > automatically and remove proxys from the web browser. You > said > > > you > > > > > got > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > new IP address after converting, was it on the 68.XXX.XXX.XXX > or > > > > > > > > 24.XXX.XXX.XXX? I had problems where for about a day I kept > > > getting > > > > an > > > > > > IP > > > > > > > > address in the private IP range of 169.XXX.XXX.XXX or > > > 10.XXX.XXX.XXX > > > > > > which > > > > > > > > annoyed me because I was getting the DNS numbers for cox.net > > right > > > > but > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > IP refused to change to one where I would have a net > connection. > > I > > > > > > finally > > > > > > > > called them and they did something to fix it on their end > > because > > > > when > > > > > I > > > > > > > > rebooted it was again a 68.XXX.XXX.XXX address.. one that I've > > had > > > > > since > > > > > > > > that time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Suellen" <Suellen_Stewart@msn.com> wrote in message > > > > > > > > news:bc5b60f8.0201170659.1fb61766@posting.google.com... > > > > > > > > > Lloyd, > > > > > > > > > I wonder if you can give me a clue as to what happened in > this > > > > case: > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > followed Cox's "migration" instructions, used the CD and > > loaded > > > > the > > > > > > > > > software. Once everything was working, I uninstalled all the > > Cox > > > > > > > > > software. The next time I rebooted there was no connection, > > and > > > > > > > > > ipconfig revealed that I was set back to my old @home ip > > > address. > > > > I > > > > > > > > > manually entered the new ip address and gateway (that I had > > > > received > > > > > > > > > after converting) in the "alternate" tab in tcp/ip > properties, > > > and > > > > > > > > > regained the connection. It's been good for about 12 hours > > now, > > > > but > > > > > > > > > I'm wondering how long this will last considering ip > addresses > > > are > > > > > > > > > supposed to expire every four hours with the Cox system. . . > > > > (using > > > > > > > > > Windows XP). > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any info. you can provide! > > > > > > > > > Suellen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10f392,a7865c87070b0fcc X-Google-Attributes: gid10f392,public X-Google-Thread: 113850,a7865c87070b0fcc X-Google-Attributes: gid113850,public X-Google-Thread: 1136e3,710aa4d82544bdbb X-Google-Attributes: gid1136e3,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-02-14 22:21:17 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!hub1.nntpserver.com!peer1-sjc1.usenetserver.com!usenetserver.com!newsfeeds-atl1.usenetserver.com!cox.net!news1.east.cox.net.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: "Derek M. Loseke" <spamderek@cox.net> Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems.cable,cableinet.cable_modems,cox.internet.discussion.athomeconversion References: <I0VX7.10375$B61.4953680@news1.rsm1.occa.home.com> <3C314C9C.DEDF0FCC@reece.net> <82lY7.33203$K36.11443500@news1.rdc1.va.home.com> <3C334AC0.7C6370B@reece.net> <bc5b60f8.0201170659.1fb61766@posting.google.com> <m_V48.3805$zR3.251588@news2.east.cox.net> <bc5b60f8.0201272107.82cbac8@posting.google.com> <dQo68.4657$Xk4.242975@news1.east.cox.net> <ggS68.7796$Xk4.425111@news1.east.cox.net> <MUZ98.7520$zb.402377@news1.east.cox.net> <qPxa8.2968$SJ3.111454@news1.east.cox.net> <qdIa8.4135$SJ3.169803@news1.east.cox.net> <wsPa8.6174$SJ3.212199@news1.east.cox.net> Subject: Re: New cox cable managed network Lines: 302 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: <sN1b8.8247$SJ3.289122@news1.east.cox.net> Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 06:21:12 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.13.20.92 X-Complaints-To: abuse@cox.net X-Trace: news1.east.cox.net 1013754072 68.13.20.92 (Fri, 15 Feb 2002 01:21:12 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 01:21:12 EST Organization: Cox Communications