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Why would I use the CD? It converted nothing and only installs utility
software and has absolutely nothing to do with the conversion.
In fact I found it beneficial to others to suggest a link be placed on the
support site to provide the info needed for the mildly experienced user to
manually configure there news and mail settings.

"Derek M. Loseke" <spamderek@cox.net> wrote in message
news:sN1b8.8247$SJ3.289122@news1.east.cox.net...
> I did notice from the headers that you are in fact using the cox servers,
> but you're account address had not been changed.  I did consider the fact
> that it may be a fake address.
>
> Incidentally, if you installed the conversion software to convert from
> @Home, may your god have mercy on your sould.  :-)
>
> Derek
>
>
>
> "PC Medic" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message
> news:wsPa8.6174$SJ3.212199@news1.east.cox.net...
> > You consider to show your lack of knowledge in this area.
> >
> > P.S.
> > If you were familiar with Cox's services you could tell from the headers
I
> > have converted.
> > And if you were familiar with mail bots you would know they love to
scour
> > the newsgroups for email addresses within postings.
> > No, thanks, think I'll continue using the same fake email address I used
> > when posting via the @home service.
> >
> >
> > "Derek M. Loseke" <spamderek@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:qdIa8.4135$SJ3.169803@news1.east.cox.net...
> > > Hmm....perhaps not....
> > >
> > > The MAC address is vital to any piece of networked hardware.  It is on
> the
> > > second level (Network Layer) of the OSI model and is necessary for
> packet
> > > communication.
> > >
> > > However, the modem's serial number is what is used when provisioning
the
> > > modem onto the Cox Network.
> > >
> > > Even the old cybersurfer modem from Motoroal are provisioned by the
> serial
> > > number.
> > >
> > > Derek
> > >
> > > PS:  You ought to convert your email to Cox.net before the 28th.  And
if
> > you
> > > already have, you could at lease update your email address in your
> > newsgroup
> > > settings.
> > >
> > >
> > > "PC Medic" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:qPxa8.2968$SJ3.111454@news1.east.cox.net...
> > > >
> > > > "Derek M. Loseke" <spamderek@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:MUZ98.7520$zb.402377@news1.east.cox.net...
> > > > > They didn't use the MAC address, except on certain modems.  This
> > doesn't
> > > > > include Motorola and Toshiba.  They instead use the serial number.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why do you question the "Cox Contractor" part?  I am a contractor
> for
> > > Cox.
> > > > >
> > > > > Derek
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps it has to do with your lack of knowledge with regards to MAC
> > usage
> > > > and DNS/NetBIOS names.
> > > >
> > > > > "PC Medic" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:ggS68.7796$Xk4.425111@news1.east.cox.net...
> > > > > > Actually Cox@Home did use a MAC address, that of the modem, just
> as
> > > Cox
> > > > > > continues to do now on their own network. Also, the NetBios name
> and
> > > DNS
> > > > > > names are two different things, and while @Home used the
computer
> > name
> > > > for
> > > > > > IP assigning the new Cox managed network does not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cox Contractor???????
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Derek M. Loseke" <spamderek@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:dQo68.4657$Xk4.242975@news1.east.cox.net...
> > > > > > > Actually, @Home didn't use MAC Addresses, at least on on the
Cox
> > > > > network.
> > > > > > > For Cox, they used the NetBios (DNS) Name to reserve IP
> Addresses.
> > > > The
> > > > > > MAC
> > > > > > > address had nothing to do with it on the Cox network, and I
> > imagine
> > > > that
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > also true for Comcast and AT&T.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, the software doesn't detect all NIC's.  It has nothing
to
> do
> > > > with
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > Modem.  However, we do have some problems with the old
CyberSurf
> > > > modems.
> > > > > > > They should work however.  As long as your modem comes online,
> > > > > everything
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > cool.  As for the software, it doesn't make a diference....you
> > don't
> > > > > need
> > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Derek
> > > > > > > Cox Contractor
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Suellen" <Suellen_Stewart@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:bc5b60f8.0201272107.82cbac8@posting.google.com...
> > > > > > > > I'm fairly certain that the migration had taken place,
because
> I
> > > > > > > > initially did receive an IP address in the 68.xxx.xxx.xxx
> range,
> > > > > > > > before it reverted back to the old one in the 65.xxx.xxx.xxx
> > > range.
> > > > > > > > Whatever the explanation was, I have reverted to the correct
> > > > settings
> > > > > > > > (using DHCP)and everything is working for now. I am
interested
> > in
> > > > your
> > > > > > > > statement that they "had to do something on their end." I
know
> > > that
> > > > > > > > @home had a setup that required you to register the mac
> address
> > of
> > > a
> > > > > > > > new adapter if you changed your hardware, but that cox is
not
> > > > supposed
> > > > > > > > to be set up that way. That seems to be confirmed by the
fact
> > that
> > > I
> > > > > > > > can switch my laptop for the desktop that's normally
attached
> to
> > > the
> > > > > > > > cable modem, and it will work. HOWEVER - tonight I tried to
> help
> > a
> > > > > > > > friend set up the same way. I did the conversion on her old
> > > > computer,
> > > > > > > > and that went fine. Then I tried to substitute her new Dell
> > > Inspiron
> > > > > > > > laptop for the old desktop, and the Cox software kept
> insisting
> > > that
> > > > > > > > it couldn't detect a NIC. This in spite of the fact that all
> the
> > > > modem
> > > > > > > > lights were flashing, ipconfig showed a good IP address and
> > > gateway,
> > > > > > > > and the status box for her NIC (in Windows XP) showed a good
> bit
> > > of
> > > > > > > > data being sent and received. I never did the browser and
> email
> > > > > > > > working. Tried to call tech support and see if they needed
to
> > > change
> > > > > > > > something, but no luck getting through. I'm also wondering
> > whether
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > surfboard modem she's renting from Cox is compatible with
> > Windows
> > > > XP.
> > > > > > > > It looks pretty old - you can't even read a model number on
> it.
> > > Any
> > > > > > > > suggestions would be appreciated, since getting through to
Cox
> > > Tech
> > > > > > > > Support seems about impossible right now.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Martin J Piraino" <martinjp@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:<m_V48.3805$zR3.251588@news2.east.cox.net>...
> > > > > > > > > I wonder if your area had converted over to the new
network
> > yet,
> > > > if
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > > > there wasn't a problem. Just  because you install the
> software
> > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > mean
> > > > > > > > > your IP address will change immediately, mine didn't. I
> > wondered
> > > > the
> > > > > > > same
> > > > > > > > > thing after I installed the software and called to ask
about
> > it,
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > told
> > > > > > > > > me that the migration to the cox.net backbone wouldn't
take
> > > place
> > > > > till
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > friday night in my area. I'd recieved the conversion kit
and
> > > > > installed
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > that monday. If you keep the settings the way you have
them
> > now
> > > > you
> > > > > > may
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > problems in the future.  I'd just leave it to DHCP, and
> obtain
> > > IP
> > > > > > > address
> > > > > > > > > automatically and remove proxys from the web browser.  You
> > said
> > > > you
> > > > > > got
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > new IP address after converting, was it on the
> 68.XXX.XXX.XXX
> > or
> > > > > > > > > 24.XXX.XXX.XXX? I had problems where for about a day I
kept
> > > > getting
> > > > > an
> > > > > > > IP
> > > > > > > > > address in the private IP range of 169.XXX.XXX.XXX or
> > > > 10.XXX.XXX.XXX
> > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > annoyed me because I was getting the DNS numbers for
cox.net
> > > right
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > IP refused to change to one where I would have a net
> > connection.
> > > I
> > > > > > > finally
> > > > > > > > > called them and they did something to fix it on their end
> > > because
> > > > > when
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > rebooted it was again a 68.XXX.XXX.XXX address.. one that
> I've
> > > had
> > > > > > since
> > > > > > > > > that time.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Suellen" <Suellen_Stewart@msn.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news:bc5b60f8.0201170659.1fb61766@posting.google.com...
> > > > > > > > > > Lloyd,
> > > > > > > > > > I wonder if you can give me a clue as to what happened
in
> > this
> > > > > case:
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > followed Cox's "migration" instructions, used the CD and
> > > loaded
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > software. Once everything was working, I uninstalled all
> the
> > > Cox
> > > > > > > > > > software. The next time I rebooted there was no
> connection,
> > > and
> > > > > > > > > > ipconfig revealed that I was set back to my old @home ip
> > > > address.
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > manually entered the new ip address and gateway (that I
> had
> > > > > received
> > > > > > > > > > after converting) in the "alternate" tab in tcp/ip
> > properties,
> > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > regained the connection. It's been good for about 12
hours
> > > now,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > I'm wondering how long this will last considering ip
> > addresses
> > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > supposed to expire every four hours with the Cox system.
.
> .
> > > > > (using
> > > > > > > > > > Windows XP).
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any info. you can provide!
> > > > > > > > > > Suellen
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