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On Thu, 16 Dec 1999 17:41:41 -0500, DoSHelp <doshelp@doshelp.com>
wrote:

>Riprock wrote:
>
>> What if you have no ports open??? Exactly what do crackers use to get into a
>> Win98 system? I even have my NetBios ports closed... they can't even see my
>> machine ID or workgroup ID (according to several security check sites).
>>
>> So how, exactly, can a cracker get into my system when all, and I do mean all,
>> my ports are closed?
>
>Okay...  without employing any sort of blocking/detection technology...you are
>open to infinate tries on your operating system, since that is all you have
>protecting you. ...ok nice you run Netscape  4.7 so Internet exploder's out of the
>question along with outlook exploits (common entry means). The very worst part of
>this is you have absolutely no way of knowing who's trying what....and sooner or
>later you are going to run something that changes the way things are setup in your
>machine and grant someone the access they want. Even with a state of the art
>firewall, all patches top antivirus software to take a posture of ..."I'm 100%
>secure from anything" 

Not secure from _anything_...simply secure from _anything_ requiring
TCP/IP control of your machine.  My original post stated that there is
no way in without some service running on your Win95 machine that is
accepting connections on an open socket.  Unfortunately, this is a
_tautology_.

>is foolish....and sooner or later someone will prove you
>quite wrong.  Have you checked your system against webtrends Security Analyzer? or
>the other 'online' web based checks? until you can walk away with a clean scan
>report, dont think you are beyond being penetrated.