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Yes, I did use two online checks: Gibson and Hackerwhacker. I did the full scan
on HW. No TCP/IP or UDP ports were open and nothing else was open. I've
previously made sure the MS Webserver thingie wasn't "installed" so I wasn't
worried about that.

Now you say I'm open to infinite tries... but as long as all ports are closed
they won't get in, correct? Now I do realize that installing and removing
software will change machine configs and may open previously closed ports so I
always check again if I've added/removed software.

What other ways, besides ports and trojan-types (BO), smtp, nntp, and all the
other things Gibson and HackerWhacker check for, do hackers/crackers use to
infiltrate?

Do discover what HackerWhacker checks for go to:
http://www.hackerwhacker.com and do the "personal" check

-Rip-

DoSHelp wrote:
> 
> Riprock wrote:
> 
> > What if you have no ports open??? Exactly what do crackers use to get into a
> > Win98 system? I even have my NetBios ports closed... they can't even see my
> > machine ID or workgroup ID (according to several security check sites).
> >
> > So how, exactly, can a cracker get into my system when all, and I do mean all,
> > my ports are closed?
> 
> Okay...  without employing any sort of blocking/detection technology...you are
> open to infinate tries on your operating system, since that is all you have
> protecting you. ...ok nice you run Netscape  4.7 so Internet exploder's out of the
> question along with outlook exploits (common entry means). The very worst part of
> this is you have absolutely no way of knowing who's trying what....and sooner or
> later you are going to run something that changes the way things are setup in your
> machine and grant someone the access they want. Even with a state of the art
> firewall, all patches top antivirus software to take a posture of ..."I'm 100%
> secure from anything" is foolish....and sooner or later someone will prove you
> quite wrong.  Have you checked your system against webtrends Security Analyzer? or
> the other 'online' web based checks? until you can walk away with a clean scan
> report, dont think you are beyond being penetrated.
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