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On Fri, 01 Feb 2002 20:51:57 GMT, Jenny Low <jenny@attbi.com> wrote:

> .... Marin .....
> ......
> Also, I wouldn't say
>it is a particularly wealthy community.
>
>Their web page is at www.lucasvalley.net

Marin?  not wealthy?  right.   IIRC, Lucas Valley is the land of $500,000+
Eichler tract houses built in the late 50s/early 60s.   I guess thats
cheap by Marin standards, maybe even by Bay Area standards, but its pretty
damn wealthy by anyone elses standards...  Then there's Skywalker Ranch,
but we won't go there... :D

here's a pull of some recent real estate sales within a mile of idylberry
(in the midst of the old Eichler tract)...

Nearby    Property          Sales    Sales  # of Living Area Approx. Yr.  
Proximity Address           Price    Date  Bdrms. (sq. ft.)  Built  
 -------- ---------------- -------- ---------- -   --------- --------
 0.54 mi. 35 CANYON OAK  $1,755,727 07/18/2001 3   2000-2250 1965-1970  
 0.89 mi. 2 MOUNT TENAYA   $895,000 09/18/2001 N/A N/A       N/A 
 0.54 mi. 25 MOUNT LASSEN  $840,000 09/20/2001 5   1750-2000 1965-1970  
 0.76 mi. 903 LAS COLINDAS $629,000 11/09/2001 N/A N/A       N/A 
 0.66 mi. 506 CEDAR HILL   $590,000 07/31/2001 3   1500-1750 1960-1965  
 0.78 mi. 890 PATRICIA     $595,000 07/24/2001 5   2750-3000 1965-1970  
 0.06 mi. 819 GREENBERRY   $561,000 07/20/2001 4   1750-2000 1960-1965  
 0.15 mi. 872 FLAXBERRY    $550,000 10/26/2001 4   1250-1500 N/A 
 0.19 mi. 848 APPLEBERRY   $506,000 09/28/2001 4   1500-1750 1955-1960  
 0.96 mi. 790 DEL GANADO   $485,000 07/11/2001 4   1500-1750 N/A 
 0.91 mi. 654 LAS COLINDAS $480,000 10/19/2001 4   1750-2000 1965-1970  
 0.08 mi. 2190 ELDERBERRY  $469,500 08/15/2001 4   1500-1750 N/A 
 0.97 mi. 624 WOODBINE     $462,000 10/01/2001 3   1500-1750 1955-1960  
 0.14 mi. 860 FLAXBERRY    $450,000 09/28/2001 4   1500-1750 N/A 
 0.80 mi. 755 LAS COLINDAS $440,000 07/26/2001 4   2250-2500 N/A 
 0.89 mi. 6 MOUNT TENAYA   $255,000 09/04/2001 N/A N/A       N/A 
 0.90 mi. 546 PINEWOOD     $250,000 08/13/2001 N/A N/A       N/A 
 0.53 mi. 561 IDYLBERRY    $206,500 09/06/2001 5   1750-2000 1955-1960  


now, note, most of those Eichler places are pretty small 1500-1700 sq ft)
and 40+ years old.  Some are very run down, hence the $200K price tags,
while others are nicely fixed up, and in the $500K+ range.

In article <ng4m5u04p8slqv9in36cs6k5j900nq3emk@news.dnai.com>, spam@is.invalid 
(John R Pierce) writes...
> On Fri, 01 Feb 2002 20:51:57 GMT, Jenny Low <jenny@attbi.com> wrote:
> 
> > .... Marin .....
> > ......
> > Also, I wouldn't say
> >it is a particularly wealthy community.
> >
> >Their web page is at www.lucasvalley.net
> 
> Marin?  not wealthy?  right.   IIRC, Lucas Valley is the land of $500,000+
> Eichler tract houses built in the late 50s/early 60s.   I guess thats
> cheap by Marin standards, maybe even by Bay Area standards, but its pretty
> damn wealthy by anyone elses standards...  Then there's Skywalker Ranch,
> but we won't go there... :D
> 
> here's a pull of some recent real estate sales within a mile of idylberry
> (in the midst of the old Eichler tract)...
> 
> Nearby    Property          Sales    Sales  # of Living Area Approx. Yr.  
> Proximity Address           Price    Date  Bdrms. (sq. ft.)  Built  
>  -------- ---------------- -------- ---------- -   --------- --------
>  0.54 mi. 35 CANYON OAK  $1,755,727 07/18/2001 3   2000-2250 1965-1970  
>  0.89 mi. 2 MOUNT TENAYA   $895,000 09/18/2001 N/A N/A       N/A 
>  0.54 mi. 25 MOUNT LASSEN  $840,000 09/20/2001 5   1750-2000 1965-1970  
>  0.76 mi. 903 LAS COLINDAS $629,000 11/09/2001 N/A N/A       N/A 
>  0.66 mi. 506 CEDAR HILL   $590,000 07/31/2001 3   1500-1750 1960-1965  
>  0.78 mi. 890 PATRICIA     $595,000 07/24/2001 5   2750-3000 1965-1970  
>  0.06 mi. 819 GREENBERRY   $561,000 07/20/2001 4   1750-2000 1960-1965  
>  0.15 mi. 872 FLAXBERRY    $550,000 10/26/2001 4   1250-1500 N/A 
>  0.19 mi. 848 APPLEBERRY   $506,000 09/28/2001 4   1500-1750 1955-1960  
>  0.96 mi. 790 DEL GANADO   $485,000 07/11/2001 4   1500-1750 N/A 
>  0.91 mi. 654 LAS COLINDAS $480,000 10/19/2001 4   1750-2000 1965-1970  
>  0.08 mi. 2190 ELDERBERRY  $469,500 08/15/2001 4   1500-1750 N/A 
>  0.97 mi. 624 WOODBINE     $462,000 10/01/2001 3   1500-1750 1955-1960  
>  0.14 mi. 860 FLAXBERRY    $450,000 09/28/2001 4   1500-1750 N/A 
>  0.80 mi. 755 LAS COLINDAS $440,000 07/26/2001 4   2250-2500 N/A 
>  0.89 mi. 6 MOUNT TENAYA   $255,000 09/04/2001 N/A N/A       N/A 
>  0.90 mi. 546 PINEWOOD     $250,000 08/13/2001 N/A N/A       N/A 
>  0.53 mi. 561 IDYLBERRY    $206,500 09/06/2001 5   1750-2000 1955-1960  
> 
> 
> now, note, most of those Eichler places are pretty small 1500-1700 sq ft)
> and 40+ years old.  Some are very run down, hence the $200K price tags,
> while others are nicely fixed up, and in the $500K+ range.


And yep, those are *definitely* not wealthy by Marin County
standards.

If I had to hazard a guess, I'd speculate the average home price
in Marin is closer to $1,000,000.  As I recall, the average home
price in the entire BA is around $500,000.


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On Fri, 01 Feb 2002 20:51:57 GMT, Jenny Low <jenny@attbi.com> wrote:

>Their web page is at www.lucasvalley.net
>
>I am just wondering how this system would be configured
>compared to, say, attbi.com. 
>
They buy upstream from Verio (subnet of a Class C) and dns from
secure.net  Probably a shared T-1 line.

attbi.com owns the IP blocks (Class A) and the backbone and owns
an OC48.

Apples and Oranges.

For a small homeowners association it's an excellent choice.. as long
as they can support the overhead of people to maintain it and the
cable head end.

While we're on the subject of real estate.  Where do the rich in San Francisco
live?  I heard there were mansions, gated communities and estates in SF
but where exactly are they located since everything in SF is small compared
to say Beverly Hills where you can get a 8000 Sq foot house on 6 acres of
land for roughly $2 million.

Steve

In article <3c5c679c$0$27754$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net>, vince@sun.HAWAII-
ISP.NET (Vincent Poy) writes...
> While we're on the subject of real estate.  Where do the rich in San Francisco
> live?  I heard there were mansions, gated communities and estates in SF
> but where exactly are they located since everything in SF is small compared
> to say Beverly Hills where you can get a 8000 Sq foot house on 6 acres of
> land for roughly $2 million.
> 
> Steve


For starters - St. Francis Wood, Seacliff, and that area above 
Union St, I'm not sure what it's called. (Where Danielle Steele 
and her 26 registered parking spaces reside.. :-)

BTW, are you Vincent or Steve?


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On Sun, 3 Feb 2002 08:30:24 -0800, Philip J. Koenig
<See_email_@ddress_below.This_one_is.invalid> wrote:

>For starters - St. Francis Wood, Seacliff, and that area above 
>Union St, I'm not sure what it's called. (Where Danielle Steele 
>and her 26 registered parking spaces reside.. :-)

pacific heights.  or presidio heights, depending on part of union you are
referring to.   Roughly the area south of Union St, north of California,
east of Fillmore St, and west of the Presidio.

-jrp
 (resident of Jackson St near Divisadero in the early 60s, and Vallejo St
near Steiner in the late 60s).

In article <MPG.16c7057e142d02ff98a85d@corp.supernews.com>,
Philip J. Koenig  <See_email_@ddress_below.This_one_is.invalid> wrote:
>In article <3c5c679c$0$27754$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net>, vince@sun.HAWAII-
>ISP.NET (Vincent Poy) writes...
>> While we're on the subject of real estate.  Where do the rich in San Francisco
>> live?  I heard there were mansions, gated communities and estates in SF
>> but where exactly are they located since everything in SF is small compared
>> to say Beverly Hills where you can get a 8000 Sq foot house on 6 acres of
>> land for roughly $2 million.
>> 
>> Steve
>
>
>For starters - St. Francis Wood, Seacliff, and that area above 
>Union St, I'm not sure what it's called. (Where Danielle Steele 
>and her 26 registered parking spaces reside.. :-)

	I didn't know any of those places actually had mansions or
estates like you see that is gated with large pieces of land or
tennis courts, swimming pools on the property.  It seems even the
largest SF houses pretty much occupy almost all the land below it.
Hillsborough seems to be bigger though.

>BTW, are you Vincent or Steve?

	I'm Steve.  Somehow the system messed up when I su'ed to 
root.

Steve

In article <3c605eac$0$27754$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net>, vince@sun.HAWAII-
ISP.NET (Vincent Poy) writes...
> In article <MPG.16c7057e142d02ff98a85d@corp.supernews.com>,
> Philip J. Koenig  <See_email_@ddress_below.This_one_is.invalid> wrote:
> >In article <3c5c679c$0$27754$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net>, vince@sun.HAWAII-
> >ISP.NET (Vincent Poy) writes...
> >> While we're on the subject of real estate.  Where do the rich in San Francisco
> >> live?  I heard there were mansions, gated communities and estates in SF
> >> but where exactly are they located since everything in SF is small compared
> >> to say Beverly Hills where you can get a 8000 Sq foot house on 6 acres of
> >> land for roughly $2 million.
> >> 
> >> Steve
> >
> >
> >For starters - St. Francis Wood, Seacliff, and that area above 
> >Union St, I'm not sure what it's called. (Where Danielle Steele 
> >and her 26 registered parking spaces reside.. :-)
> 
> 	I didn't know any of those places actually had mansions or
> estates like you see that is gated with large pieces of land or
> tennis courts, swimming pools on the property.  It seems even the
> largest SF houses pretty much occupy almost all the land below it.
> Hillsborough seems to be bigger though.


SF is a very small city.  I suspect there are many single
ranches in Texas (or California, for that matter) which are 
bigger than our entire city.  Therefore you are not going to 
see lots of giant mansions with grand sweeping property around 
them, we simply don't have the space. 

 
> >BTW, are you Vincent or Steve?
> 
> 	I'm Steve.  Somehow the system messed up when I su'ed to 
> root.
> 
> Steve


Seems it's still messing up.  You're still posting as "Vincent Poy".


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