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With a little more info some of us might be able to help you tweak your
connection so as you have nothing to worry about but the reconnect when you
boot.

Bob

--
For those who believe, no explanation is necessary...
For those who do not, none will suffice...
http://www3.sympatico.ca/bcarrick/


Lucas Tam <uutp@home.com_REMOVE> wrote in message
news:r84P3.142$547.9099@news1.rdc2.on.home.com...
> I was a cable modem user until I recently went to university in September.
I
> signed up for Bell Canada's ADSL service, and have regretted it since.
>
> #1.  Bell Sympatico lost my order TWICE
> #2.  It took 4 weeks to get my modem
> #3.  The service requires a patch... or else you can't get online
> #4.  The waits on the phone for service ARE LONG!  40+ mins.
> #5.  Upload speeds are SLOW
>
> Now that I finally have ADSL service... it's reliability is non-exsistent.
My
> connection locks up every 5 - 10 minutes for 30 seconds or so.
Furthermore, I
> always though ADSL was a PERMANENT connection... but Sympatico has a
stupid
> access manager.
>
> A little bit of advice for everyone wanting to get ADSL...
>
> Sure get it...
>
> If you want to get screwed over like me ; )
>
> P.S. Until I used ADSL I thought Cable was bad... but now I realize how
much
> better it is.
>
> P.S.S. Nothing beats POTS Modems!
>

Sorry it hasn't worked out for you Lucas. I signed up about two weeks ago
and requested an activation date of October 15th. My modem and other
accessories were faithfully delivered on the 15th. I had some setup issues
self installing (the ethernet card) which I quickly fixed it after getting
some incorrect info from Bell's tech (by installing the drivers answering
"no" to the prompts to replace older files with newer versions). The Access
Manager was a small pain...it's only initiated when you connect. After
connection, you can leave on 24/7 or disconnect as you wish. There is a
Sympatico HSE specific NG you may want to check out called
"Sympatico.Highspeed" on the Sympatico news server.

Good Luck


Regards

Darryl

Bob Carrick <bcarrick@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:UM4P3.17507$up3.23536@news21.bellglobal.com...
> With a little more info some of us might be able to help you tweak your
> connection so as you have nothing to worry about but the reconnect when
you
> boot.
>
> Bob
>
> --
> For those who believe, no explanation is necessary...
> For those who do not, none will suffice...
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/bcarrick/
>
>
> Lucas Tam <uutp@home.com_REMOVE> wrote in message
> news:r84P3.142$547.9099@news1.rdc2.on.home.com...
> > I was a cable modem user until I recently went to university in
September.
> I
> > signed up for Bell Canada's ADSL service, and have regretted it since.
> >
> > #1.  Bell Sympatico lost my order TWICE
> > #2.  It took 4 weeks to get my modem
> > #3.  The service requires a patch... or else you can't get online
> > #4.  The waits on the phone for service ARE LONG!  40+ mins.
> > #5.  Upload speeds are SLOW
> >
> > Now that I finally have ADSL service... it's reliability is
non-exsistent.
> My
> > connection locks up every 5 - 10 minutes for 30 seconds or so.
> Furthermore, I
> > always though ADSL was a PERMANENT connection... but Sympatico has a
> stupid
> > access manager.
> >
> > A little bit of advice for everyone wanting to get ADSL...
> >
> > Sure get it...
> >
> > If you want to get screwed over like me ; )
> >
> > P.S. Until I used ADSL I thought Cable was bad... but now I realize how
> much
> > better it is.
> >
> > P.S.S. Nothing beats POTS Modems!
> >
>
>

In article <Bu6P3.17566$up3.23370@news21.bellglobal.com>, 
darryl_m@HATESPAMsympatico.ca says...

Lucky you : )  

I'm at the University of Waterloo Residence, and all the on my floor who 
ordered it have been having a lot of trouble with ADSL.

Bell and Waterloo seem to have some type of partnership going on, but instead 
it has caused many headaches (delayed orders, etc.)




>Sorry it hasn't worked out for you Lucas. I signed up about two weeks ago
>and requested an activation date of October 15th. My modem and other
>accessories were faithfully delivered on the 15th. I had some setup issues
>self installing (the ethernet card) which I quickly fixed it after getting
>some incorrect info from Bell's tech (by installing the drivers answering
>"no" to the prompts to replace older files with newer versions). The Access
>Manager was a small pain...it's only initiated when you connect. After
>connection, you can leave on 24/7 or disconnect as you wish. There is a
>Sympatico HSE specific NG you may want to check out called
>"Sympatico.Highspeed" on the Sympatico news server.
>
>Good Luck
>
>
>Regards
>
>Darryl
>
>Bob Carrick <bcarrick@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
>news:UM4P3.17507$up3.23536@news21.bellglobal.com...
>> With a little more info some of us might be able to help you tweak your
>> connection so as you have nothing to worry about but the reconnect when
>you
>> boot.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> --
>> For those who believe, no explanation is necessary...
>> For those who do not, none will suffice...
>> http://www3.sympatico.ca/bcarrick/
>>
>>
>> Lucas Tam <uutp@home.com_REMOVE> wrote in message
>> news:r84P3.142$547.9099@news1.rdc2.on.home.com...
>> > I was a cable modem user until I recently went to university in
>September.
>> I
>> > signed up for Bell Canada's ADSL service, and have regretted it since.
>> >
>> > #1.  Bell Sympatico lost my order TWICE
>> > #2.  It took 4 weeks to get my modem
>> > #3.  The service requires a patch... or else you can't get online
>> > #4.  The waits on the phone for service ARE LONG!  40+ mins.
>> > #5.  Upload speeds are SLOW
>> >
>> > Now that I finally have ADSL service... it's reliability is
>non-exsistent.
>> My
>> > connection locks up every 5 - 10 minutes for 30 seconds or so.
>> Furthermore, I
>> > always though ADSL was a PERMANENT connection... but Sympatico has a
>> stupid
>> > access manager.
>> >
>> > A little bit of advice for everyone wanting to get ADSL...
>> >
>> > Sure get it...
>> >
>> > If you want to get screwed over like me ; )
>> >
>> > P.S. Until I used ADSL I thought Cable was bad... but now I realize how
>> much
>> > better it is.
>> >
>> > P.S.S. Nothing beats POTS Modems!
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:43:45 GMT, "Darryl"
<darryl_m@HATESPAMsympatico.ca> wrote:

>Sorry it hasn't worked out for you Lucas. I signed up about two weeks ago
>and requested an activation date of October 15th. My modem and other
>accessories were faithfully delivered on the 15th. I had some setup issues
>self installing (the ethernet card) which I quickly fixed it after getting
>some incorrect info from Bell's tech (by installing the drivers answering
>"no" to the prompts to replace older files with newer versions). The Access
>Manager was a small pain...it's only initiated when you connect. After
>connection, you can leave on 24/7 or disconnect as you wish. There is a
>Sympatico HSE specific NG you may want to check out called
>"Sympatico.Highspeed" on the Sympatico news server.
>
>Good Luck
>>
Hi,

My account at Totalnet is about to end and was thinking of getting a
fast connection but keep hearing bad things about Bell and videotron
access. What I hate about videotron cable is the download limit per
month of 6gigs! Does Sympatico have this limit? Is the speed
difference great? Any info or comment on Asdl or Cable would be
apreciated.

Sympatico has no limit..

But right now ...if you join... Well... Have fun dealing with PPPoE And
Access Manager

--
Daniel Correia
DCorreia@vinga.ca DanielC@nowonder.com ICQ#51652385 AL#46962050
No Wonder! - http://www.nowonder.com/
Sympatico HSE Users - http://www.shua.on.ca/
=======================================================================
SHSE ACCESS MANAGER (PPPoE) PETITION - http://www.sympaticousers.org
Fighting Bell Canada and Sympatico Against their,
Access Manager/PPPoE/RedBack SMS System
=======================================================================

Sleepy <sleepy7@total.net> wrote in message
news:73YOOG1Ggd4FBSrjJdzb45OGxmBx@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:43:45 GMT, "Darryl"
> <darryl_m@HATESPAMsympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >Sorry it hasn't worked out for you Lucas. I signed up about two weeks ago
> >and requested an activation date of October 15th. My modem and other
> >accessories were faithfully delivered on the 15th. I had some setup
issues
> >self installing (the ethernet card) which I quickly fixed it after
getting
> >some incorrect info from Bell's tech (by installing the drivers answering
> >"no" to the prompts to replace older files with newer versions). The
Access
> >Manager was a small pain...it's only initiated when you connect. After
> >connection, you can leave on 24/7 or disconnect as you wish. There is a
> >Sympatico HSE specific NG you may want to check out called
> >"Sympatico.Highspeed" on the Sympatico news server.
> >
> >Good Luck
> >>
> Hi,
>
> My account at Totalnet is about to end and was thinking of getting a
> fast connection but keep hearing bad things about Bell and videotron
> access. What I hate about videotron cable is the download limit per
> month of 6gigs! Does Sympatico have this limit? Is the speed
> difference great? Any info or comment on Asdl or Cable would be
> apreciated.
>

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:40:25 -0700, Sleepy <sleepy7@total.net> wrote:

>What I hate about videotron cable is the download limit per
>month of 6gigs! Does Sympatico have this limit?

	Damn!  6 Gygabytes is a lot, man!  Have you ever tried
measuring your monthly usage to see where you are?  And it's not even
a limit.  You can go above if you want, but you'll have to pay a small
extra fee.

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:37:06 GMT, Marc Y. Paulin <mpaulin@home.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:40:25 -0700, Sleepy <sleepy7@total.net> wrote:
>
>>What I hate about videotron cable is the download limit per
>>month of 6gigs! Does Sympatico have this limit?
>
>	Damn!  6 Gygabytes is a lot, man!  Have you ever tried
>measuring your monthly usage to see where you are?  And it's not even
>a limit.  You can go above if you want, but you'll have to pay a small
>extra fee.

yes I download about 2.5 gigs a month now but I'm at 46000bps.. With
cable it's really fast and could reach that :) I don't run a server
but download alot. What worries me is the 1gig upload limit.
Downloading and surfing always sends information also play 2 online
games on a regular basis.

Later.

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:33:29 -0700, Sleepy <sleepy7@total.net> wrote:

>yes I download about 2.5 gigs a month now but I'm at 46000bps.. With
>cable it's really fast and could reach that :) I don't run a server
>but download alot. What worries me is the 1gig upload limit.
>Downloading and surfing always sends information also play 2 online
>games on a regular basis.

	2.5gigs at 46Kbps?  You're into self-mutilation? :-)  I also
monitor my traffic on a regular basis and do online gaming.  Never
went over 1GB in one month.  However, I'm not saying that it's good.
What worries me is that even when I don't use my machine at all,
there's still traffic coming into my machine.  "DU Meter" is always
showing stuff coming in.  Will that count for the 6GB limit?

In can.internet.highspeed Marc Y. Paulin said:

 MYP > 	Damn!  6 Gygabytes is a lot, man!  Have you ever tried
 MYP > measuring your monthly usage to see where you are?  And it's not even
 MYP > a limit.  You can go above if you want, but you'll have to pay a small
 MYP > extra fee.

I go through about 4 G a month just in Email...

a.

In article <za8POKm+aVO2cr84Yv1gO2RWVeIJ@4ax.com>, sleepy7@total.net wrote:

> yes I download about 2.5 gigs a month now but I'm at 46000bps.. With
> cable it's really fast and could reach that :) I don't run a server
> but download alot. What worries me is the 1gig upload limit.
> Downloading and surfing always sends information also play 2 online
> games on a regular basis.

2.5GB per month at 46kbps? Let's see: 46kbps is about 4.6kBps. x 3600
seconds/hour gives us 16.6MB/hour. x 24 hours/day gives ~400MB/day. x 30
days/month gives 12 GB per month maximum. Meaning you're connected and
downloading full speed about 5 hours per day or you're averaging ~1kBps
every second of the month. Do you have a life away from the computer?

-- 
-- Larry Stone --- lstone@enteract.com
   http://www.enteract.com/~lstone/
   Roselle, IL, USA
   I work for United Airlines but never, never speak for them

Anything will count that is going or coming to your computer

--
Daniel Correia
DCorreia@vinga.ca DanielC@nowonder.com ICQ#51652385 AL#46962050
NoWonder! - http://www.nowonder.com/
Sympatico HSE Users - http://www.shua.on.ca/
=======================================================================
SHSE ACCESS MANAGER (PPPoE) PETITION - http://www.sympaticousers.org
Fighting Bell Canada and Sympatico Against their,
Access Manager/PPPoE/RedBack SMS System
=======================================================================

Marc Y. Paulin <mpaulin@home.com> wrote in message
news:MZ8POCjwkr9Jyeajp=FowENXFBU4@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:33:29 -0700, Sleepy <sleepy7@total.net> wrote:
>
> >yes I download about 2.5 gigs a month now but I'm at 46000bps.. With
> >cable it's really fast and could reach that :) I don't run a server
> >but download alot. What worries me is the 1gig upload limit.
> >Downloading and surfing always sends information also play 2 online
> >games on a regular basis.
>
> 2.5gigs at 46Kbps?  You're into self-mutilation? :-)  I also
> monitor my traffic on a regular basis and do online gaming.  Never
> went over 1GB in one month.  However, I'm not saying that it's good.
> What worries me is that even when I don't use my machine at all,
> there's still traffic coming into my machine.  "DU Meter" is always
> showing stuff coming in.  Will that count for the 6GB limit?
>

Huh? hehe

--
Daniel Correia
DCorreia@vinga.ca DanielC@nowonder.com ICQ#51652385 AL#46962050
NoWonder! - http://www.nowonder.com/
Sympatico HSE Users - http://www.shua.on.ca/
=======================================================================
SHSE ACCESS MANAGER (PPPoE) PETITION - http://www.sympaticousers.org
Fighting Bell Canada and Sympatico Against their,
Access Manager/PPPoE/RedBack SMS System
=======================================================================

Aidan Van Dyk <x@highrise.ca> wrote in message
news:7uo7pr$sk9$2@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca...
> In can.internet.highspeed Marc Y. Paulin said:
>
>  MYP > Damn!  6 Gygabytes is a lot, man!  Have you ever tried
>  MYP > measuring your monthly usage to see where you are?  And it's not
even
>  MYP > a limit.  You can go above if you want, but you'll have to pay a
small
>  MYP > extra fee.
>
> I go through about 4 G a month just in Email...
>
> a.

Larry Stone wrote:

> 2.5GB per month at 46kbps? Let's see: 46kbps is about 4.6kBps. x 3600
> seconds/hour gives us 16.6MB/hour. x 24 hours/day gives ~400MB/day. x 30
> days/month gives 12 GB per month maximum. Meaning you're connected and
> downloading full speed about 5 hours per day or you're averaging ~1kBps
> every second of the month. Do you have a life away from the computer?

    Some have no life AT the computer either.

    Why is it that every time someone confesses to using the internet to its
full potential, someone will imply they're shut-ins?



jaybee

On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 22:17:59 -0500, lstone@enteract.com (Larry Stone)
wrote:

>In article <za8POKm+aVO2cr84Yv1gO2RWVeIJ@4ax.com>, sleepy7@total.net wrote:
>
>> yes I download about 2.5 gigs a month now but I'm at 46000bps.. With
>> cable it's really fast and could reach that :) I don't run a server
>> but download alot. What worries me is the 1gig upload limit.
>> Downloading and surfing always sends information also play 2 online
>> games on a regular basis.
>
>2.5GB per month at 46kbps? Let's see: 46kbps is about 4.6kBps. x 3600
>seconds/hour gives us 16.6MB/hour. x 24 hours/day gives ~400MB/day. x 30
>days/month gives 12 GB per month maximum. Meaning you're connected and
>downloading full speed about 5 hours per day or you're averaging ~1kBps
>every second of the month. Do you have a life away from the computer?

No :)

Ya, I agree.  6 gigs is a lot!   I'm a constant downloader of mp3s....   but
I doubt if I go over 2 gigs per month.  It sucks that they would put a
restriction like that, but its not that bad when you sit donw to think about
it.

But thats just my 2 cents

Dar.


Marc Y. Paulin <mpaulin@home.com> wrote in message
news:vjIPOJbf63gU7KDPTzBPX4zU3nSL@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:40:25 -0700, Sleepy <sleepy7@total.net> wrote:
>
> >What I hate about videotron cable is the download limit per
> >month of 6gigs! Does Sympatico have this limit?
>
> Damn!  6 Gygabytes is a lot, man!  Have you ever tried
> measuring your monthly usage to see where you are?  And it's not even
> a limit.  You can go above if you want, but you'll have to pay a small
> extra fee.
>

According the DU Meter, which keeps a running total, I have only downloaded
just under 16 gigabytes since 6/29/99, and I am a rather heavy downloader.  I
don't thing 6 gigs a month is a significant limitation.

-- 
Ron Hunter     rphunter@home.com

Darrell Chaffey wrote:
> 
> Ya, I agree.  6 gigs is a lot!   I'm a constant downloader of mp3s....   but
> I doubt if I go over 2 gigs per month.  It sucks that they would put a
> restriction like that, but its not that bad when you sit donw to think about
> it.
> 
> But thats just my 2 cents
> 
> Dar.
> 
> Marc Y. Paulin <mpaulin@home.com> wrote in message
> news:vjIPOJbf63gU7KDPTzBPX4zU3nSL@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:40:25 -0700, Sleepy <sleepy7@total.net> wrote:
> >
> > >What I hate about videotron cable is the download limit per
> > >month of 6gigs! Does Sympatico have this limit?
> >
> > Damn!  6 Gygabytes is a lot, man!  Have you ever tried
> > measuring your monthly usage to see where you are?  And it's not even
> > a limit.  You can go above if you want, but you'll have to pay a small
> > extra fee.
> >