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> 2. What has the comparable DSL and DirectPC (if available) experience
> been in the NW Suburbs?

I could comment on this, stay away from DirecPC, first it is uni-directional
and you would still need an ISP to send url request. If you're more
downloading than Uploading then it might be worth it, but we had
probs with them, turning the speed down if we downloaded too
much (which we did).

I'd say if you can get DSL go for it, then Cable. And make sure you have
decent firewall programs. I have friends who used Flashcom in Schaumburg
and are pretty mad at them and moving with Ameritech.

> 3. How frequent is downtime? 8-12 hours a week? Any dial-up backup?
> With Mediaone it was sporadic, once went 4 days without cable, had to
> use their 28.8 dial-up server.

I also have friends using Media-one in Hoffman Estates, they had problems
with really slow downloads at night and packet losses, mediaone told them
that they were adding new nodes, but I don't know anything about it.

> 4. Now that TCI has capped uploads at 128KBps, how does that affect
> running IIS5 or Apache?

Shouldn't matter...

<adoh@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8n1jrc$2k2$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
>
> 4. Now that TCI has capped uploads at 128KBps, how does that affect
> running IIS5 or Apache?

Please don't run a web server on your cable connection. First, it's not
permitted by the Acceptable Use Policy. But more importantly, it spoils the
shared bandwidth for other users.
BTW, I have AT&T@Home in Wheeling and it works great. I think I'm the only
one on my node because my area just got access.

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Alex R.

On Fri, 11 Aug 2000 15:28:04 -0500, Houmi <houmi@xnet.com> wrote:
>I'd say if you can get DSL go for it, then Cable. And make sure you have
>decent firewall programs. I have friends who used Flashcom in Schaumburg
>and are pretty mad at them and moving with Ameritech.

Your friends aren't very smart, are they.  Gee, I've been screwed by
Flashcom, so now I'll go get fucked by Ameritech.

adoh@my-deja.com wrote:

> 4. Now that TCI has capped uploads at 128KBps, how does that affect
> running IIS5 or Apache?

It's 128Kbps per session, so if you're running a huge pirate FTP site each person
gets 128Kbps on each download.

It's not as bad as the cable companies describe it. Of course running a huge pirate
FTP site is against their TOS, along with any other kind of server service, but they
seem inept in finding servers running on Port 799 and stuff like that. Excite@Home
is now starting to bark about people who run Napster since it acts like a server,
it's against the TOS. The only thing is they'd be out of business if they kicked off
everyone were ever used Napster.

-Ron

: Your friends aren't very smart, are they.  Gee, I've been screwed by
: Flashcom, so now I'll go get fucked by Ameritech.

Anything is better than Flashcom... Even their technician could
not install the lines correctly and my friends fixed it themselves.

On Sat, 12 Aug 2000 08:10:15 +0000 (UTC), Houman Ghahremanlou <houmi@typhoon.xnet.com> wrote:
>: Your friends aren't very smart, are they.  Gee, I've been screwed by
>: Flashcom, so now I'll go get fucked by Ameritech.
>
>Anything is better than Flashcom... Even their technician could
>not install the lines correctly and my friends fixed it themselves.

Don't ever assume that Ameritech can't beat out any competitor for
suckiness.

  Thanks to all who responsed to my posting.
I share the concern about being a considerate bandwidth consumer.

However, still have a few questions, especially regarding specific
experience with TCI in my area.  If you know anyone with similar
service, I would like to hear about it - probably more bad than good, I
imagine.

About hosting my web server, its strictly vanity pages, ActiveX
components, and shareware that I'm developing. Small highly optimized
pages under 10K.  -especially with HTTP1.1 compression, my bandwidth
consumption should be minimal. No warez, MP3s etc - there are enough of
those around.

Q: Alex R: what are typical download, upload, ping speeds for Wheeling?
Anyone right by my neighborhood with empirical numbers for recent dates?

Steve S, Ron K - do you chaps know how TCI @Home splits the 128kbps
pipe? Is it different for M1, TCI, Comcast, RoadRunner etc? Also,
doesn't ATT basically own part of all the cable modem providers now?
Quite a monopoly, unlike the emerging DSL reseller market.

Regards,
adoh


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Before you buy.

Guys
  Thanks for all the informative feedback, especially regarding
Ameritech & Flashcom :-C  Yes I am aware of their unsavory reputations
but very few of the high bandwidth providers have got their act
together yet.

   Apparently my neighbors who have obtained Telocity have not been
able to get more than 400 Kbps downstream, perhaps due to noice or self-
wired lines. Otherwise, I would probably go for Telocity since the
installations seems to be much faster than the other 'hype' DSL
providers.

> 3. How frequent is downtime? 8-12 hours a week? Any dial-up backup?
Can anyone give average numbers? Anyone run a Perfmon /netstat style
logger to measure monthly uptime? Are any such stats available on the
net?

> I also have friends using Media-one in Hoffman Estates, they had
>problems with really slow downloads at night and packet losses,

  I'm in Mt Prospect. That is former TCI territory right? So which NW
burbs were former Media1 and which were TCI? Anyone know whether the
former competitors have combined resources or as ATT just messed things
up more?

   Houmi, I just mentioned DirectPC in passing, since I doubt it is a
viable option. Nevertheless you piqued my curiousity when you mentioned
that DirectPC throttled bandwidth when you downloaded 'too much' - what
exactly does that equate to? 2 GB a month?

Best regards

adoh


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

With the M1 service and the motorolla modems, your outgoing is 256Kbits
which is split over all the connections to you.

<adoh@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8n809g$91b$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
>   Thanks to all who responsed to my posting.
> I share the concern about being a considerate bandwidth consumer.
>
> However, still have a few questions, especially regarding specific
> experience with TCI in my area.  If you know anyone with similar
> service, I would like to hear about it - probably more bad than good, I
> imagine.
>
> About hosting my web server, its strictly vanity pages, ActiveX
> components, and shareware that I'm developing. Small highly optimized
> pages under 10K.  -especially with HTTP1.1 compression, my bandwidth
> consumption should be minimal. No warez, MP3s etc - there are enough of
> those around.
>
> Q: Alex R: what are typical download, upload, ping speeds for Wheeling?
> Anyone right by my neighborhood with empirical numbers for recent dates?
>
> Steve S, Ron K - do you chaps know how TCI @Home splits the 128kbps
> pipe? Is it different for M1, TCI, Comcast, RoadRunner etc? Also,
> doesn't ATT basically own part of all the cable modem providers now?
> Quite a monopoly, unlike the emerging DSL reseller market.
>
> Regards,
> adoh
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Tell your neighbor to go to www.speedguide.net and go to the PATCHES page
and follow the
instructions for the PPPoE connection...  download the file and install...
my DSL connection speed went from 450 Kbps to over 1200 Kbps.

This is the file you need for DSL using PPPoE:
http://www.speedguide.net/files/sguide_tweak_98_pppoe.zip  unzip the file,
RIGHT Click on the .INF file that it makes, select INSTALL (it will look
like nothing happened but it did) shut down and reboot.....

Here is a good speed test, run it a few times BEFORE and after you do this
patch: http://computingcentral.msn.com/topics/bandwidth/speedtest.asp

Let me know how it works for you...



<adoh@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8n80be$91h$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Guys
>   Thanks for all the informative feedback, especially regarding
> Ameritech & Flashcom :-C  Yes I am aware of their unsavory reputations
> but very few of the high bandwidth providers have got their act
> together yet.
>
>    Apparently my neighbors who have obtained Telocity have not been
> able to get more than 400 Kbps downstream, perhaps due to noice or self-
> wired lines. Otherwise, I would probably go for Telocity since the
> installations seems to be much faster than the other 'hype' DSL
> providers.
>
> > 3. How frequent is downtime? 8-12 hours a week? Any dial-up backup?
> Can anyone give average numbers? Anyone run a Perfmon /netstat style
> logger to measure monthly uptime? Are any such stats available on the
> net?
>
> > I also have friends using Media-one in Hoffman Estates, they had
> >problems with really slow downloads at night and packet losses,
>
>   I'm in Mt Prospect. That is former TCI territory right? So which NW
> burbs were former Media1 and which were TCI? Anyone know whether the
> former competitors have combined resources or as ATT just messed things
> up more?
>
>    Houmi, I just mentioned DirectPC in passing, since I doubt it is a
> viable option. Nevertheless you piqued my curiousity when you mentioned
> that DirectPC throttled bandwidth when you downloaded 'too much' - what
> exactly does that equate to? 2 GB a month?
>
> Best regards
>
> adoh
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

With the M1 service and the motorolla modems, your outgoing is 256Kbits
which is split over all the connections to you.

<adoh@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8n809g$91b$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
>   Thanks to all who responsed to my posting.
> I share the concern about being a considerate bandwidth consumer.
>
> However, still have a few questions, especially regarding specific
> experience with TCI in my area.  If you know anyone with similar
> service, I would like to hear about it - probably more bad than good, I
> imagine.
>
> About hosting my web server, its strictly vanity pages, ActiveX
> components, and shareware that I'm developing. Small highly optimized
> pages under 10K.  -especially with HTTP1.1 compression, my bandwidth
> consumption should be minimal. No warez, MP3s etc - there are enough of
> those around.
>
> Q: Alex R: what are typical download, upload, ping speeds for Wheeling?
> Anyone right by my neighborhood with empirical numbers for recent dates?
>
> Steve S, Ron K - do you chaps know how TCI @Home splits the 128kbps
> pipe? Is it different for M1, TCI, Comcast, RoadRunner etc? Also,
> doesn't ATT basically own part of all the cable modem providers now?
> Quite a monopoly, unlike the emerging DSL reseller market.
>
> Regards,
> adoh
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Alex R. wrote:
> Well, as in any high-speed connection, it fluctuates a lot.

Outside of the *very* odd outage, my DSL fluctuates from 768K to 768K.

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Well, as in any high-speed connection, it fluctuates a lot. When I try to
download to a large file from a Chicago server with ping less than 20, I get
about 250 KB/s, which is excellent, more than I ever expected. Sometimes it
even goes up to more tha 400 KB/s for a few seconds at a time, but rarely.
But on average, I'd say I'm getting between 150 to 200 KB/s from a typical
web download. Sometimes it's even less than 50.
I haven't really tested upload speeds because I know they are slow and AT&T
states that it's only 128 Kbps.
About pings, I can tell you that a typical server in Chicago would ping at
less than 20 ms. I can easily find multi-player game servers in the Midwest
that ping at less than 35 ms. But typical web server pings are more than 60
ms. That's probably because of the inefficient routing. There are typically
a lot of hops to cross.
As for down times, I haven't had any yet, but the mail server frequently
doesn't let you log in for some reason for hours at a time.
This performance will probably change very soon as more customers sign up.
BTW, how large would my node be? I mean, how many people or towns does it
cover?
___
Alex R.
pcalex@-yahoo.com
Remove the - when replying by email.

<adoh@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8n809g$91b$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
>
> Q: Alex R: what are typical download, upload, ping speeds for Wheeling?
> Anyone right by my neighborhood with empirical numbers for recent dates?
>
> Regards,
> adoh