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4 total messages Started by Alan Sadler Sun, 07 Nov 1999 00:00
New Cable Modem setup & network printer
#831
Author: Alan Sadler
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 00:00
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There's good news and bad news.  Yesterday 21st century/Chicago exchanged my
POS Zenith cable modem with a new Nortel.  The speeds almost doubled, from
4-600bps, to consistently 900-1100bps.  Not too bad.

The bad news is, that my printer stopped working.  It's an old HP3,
connected to a HP Jetdirect EX plus print server.  The printer is too far
for a printer cable, so I hooked it up through Ethernet.  It worked for the
last 5 months without a hitch.  I didn't check it before the 21st century
installer left.  He did say that my IP is now Dynamic(DHCP) instead of the
static one on the old modem.  I understand the above, but not why the
Printer stopped working.  Any help would be appreciated.

Also, Another slightly disturbing change is that I can see the world in my
Network Neighborhood.  Most machines are not shared or drives are password
protected.  Thankfully, I can't get see my machine.  What is the proper
protocol?  Should I just mind my own business, or somehow inform the user
that I can see their most intimate files?

Thanks in advance for you reply.

--
Alan Sadler <sadler@BigDeahl.com>
Re: New Cable Modem setup & network printer
#832
Author: David Gibbs
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 00:00
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Caveat: I'm not a networking or cable modem expert ... the following
is just from my own experience.

On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:05:36 -0600, "Alan Sadler"
<asadler@21stcentury.net> wrote:

>The bad news is, that my printer stopped working.  It's an old HP3,
>connected to a HP Jetdirect EX plus print server.  The printer is too far
>for a printer cable, so I hooked it up through Ethernet.  It worked for the
>last 5 months without a hitch.  I didn't check it before the 21st century
>installer left.  He did say that my IP is now Dynamic(DHCP) instead of the
>static one on the old modem.  I understand the above, but not why the
>Printer stopped working.  Any help would be appreciated.

Sounds like your printer is no longer in the same network as your
computer.  When you had a static IP you could setup the printer server
to have a similar IP address as your computer... now the IP address is
set by the DHCP server and is probably not in the same network as the
printer.

Assuming you are running windows... run the WINIPCFG program to see
what IP address is assigned ... a wild guess is that the IP is in the
24.x.x.x region (this is a standard address block for the cable
industry).  Your printer is probably NOT in this area.

A solution would be to put a 2nd NIC into your computer and hook the
cable modem to that, so it will have it's own IP address assigned by
DHCP ... and assign private IP's to original NIC, and plug that into
the hub with your print server (and any other computers).  That also
gives you the ability to make your cable modem attached computer act
as a router (with appropriate software) so that all the computers in
your network can access the internet via your one connection.

david
Re: New Cable Modem setup & network printer
#833
Author: Rolf Ostergaard
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 00:00
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Alan,

What Dave wrote is very likely the case. The ethernet print server is yet
another reason that a cable modem should be a router and not a bridge -
unfortunately the cable industry think they loose control (= money) that
way. Unless you want to install more hardware, you should convince your
provider that they need to give you an extra IP address for your print
server. Request that you get it for free, even if they normally charge for
it. In this case you are not hooking up an extra PC (= extra user), so they
should give it to you for free.

Good luck,

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David Gibbs wrote in message <18QlOOA8+yZu9Re=o5JGhTX32svf@4ax.com>...
>Caveat: I'm not a networking or cable modem expert ... the following
>is just from my own experience.
>
>On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:05:36 -0600, "Alan Sadler"
><asadler@21stcentury.net> wrote:
>
>>The bad news is, that my printer stopped working.  It's an old HP3,
>>connected to a HP Jetdirect EX plus print server.  The printer is too far
>>for a printer cable, so I hooked it up through Ethernet.  It worked for
the
>>last 5 months without a hitch.  I didn't check it before the 21st century
>>installer left.  He did say that my IP is now Dynamic(DHCP) instead of the
>>static one on the old modem.  I understand the above, but not why the
>>Printer stopped working.  Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Sounds like your printer is no longer in the same network as your
>computer.  When you had a static IP you could setup the printer server
>to have a similar IP address as your computer... now the IP address is
>set by the DHCP server and is probably not in the same network as the
>printer.
>
>Assuming you are running windows... run the WINIPCFG program to see
>what IP address is assigned ... a wild guess is that the IP is in the
>24.x.x.x region (this is a standard address block for the cable
>industry).  Your printer is probably NOT in this area.
>
>A solution would be to put a 2nd NIC into your computer and hook the
>cable modem to that, so it will have it's own IP address assigned by
>DHCP ... and assign private IP's to original NIC, and plug that into
>the hub with your print server (and any other computers).  That also
>gives you the ability to make your cable modem attached computer act
>as a router (with appropriate software) so that all the computers in
>your network can access the internet via your one connection.
>
>david
>
Re: New Cable Modem setup & network printer
#834
Author: Mike Stucka
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 1999 00:00
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I think the other folks hit on some great ideas. The static IP likely
would be the most permanent, and best fix.

Other possibilities include:
Using a different protocol, e.g., ipx/sp, for your printer if its Ethernet
card supports it. That way, whatever your computer has to do with TCP/IP
traffic won't affect the printer at all. This sucks for a couple reasons.

Alternately, see if there's a way to "multihome" your PC's Ethernet card.
This involves assigning multiple IP addresses to the very same interface
(card). This has a couple benefits, including the ability to let you add
your own logical network behind the scenes at will. If your operating
system can do it (check the vendor's home page, search for it), this would
be -great. In the future, for example, you could add a second PC and use
something like a wingate-style proxy to get that one on the Internet as
well. IT also keeps you from having to go through AtHome when you have
problems internally; they simply become your problem.



Mike
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