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6 total messages Started by emery Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:00
why the Router still answer ? (to a ping or a tracert )
#2120
Author: emery
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:00
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hello,

I have done the config for two Router for a DMZ and  I have desactivate  UDP
small server , tcp small serveur and no finger etc...

and i was thincking he will not answer to a ping but he still answer.

Can you tell me how I need to do to stop the reply ?
because if he reply (My routeur) somebody can overload my router not thrue ?

many thanks for your helps.

Phil
Re: why the Router still answer ? (to a ping or a tracert )
#2121
Author: Barry Margolin
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:00
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In article <35366875.0@news.iprolink.ch>, emery <emery-ph@iprolink.ch> wrote:
>I have done the config for two Router for a DMZ and  I have desactivate  UDP
>small server , tcp small serveur and no finger etc...
>
>and i was thincking he will not answer to a ping but he still answer.
>
>Can you tell me how I need to do to stop the reply ?
>because if he reply (My routeur) somebody can overload my router not thrue ?

I think you will have to block it with an inbound packet filter on the
serial port.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@bbnplanet.com
GTE Internetworking, Powered by BBN, Cambridge, MA
*** DON'T SEND TECHNICAL QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO ME, post them to newsgroups.
Re: why the Router still answer ? (to a ping or a tracert )
#2122
Author: Javier Henderson
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 00:00
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"emery" <emery-ph@iprolink.ch> writes:

> I have done the config for two Router for a DMZ and  I have desactivate  UDP
> small server , tcp small serveur and no finger etc...
> 
> and i was thincking he will not answer to a ping but he still answer.

	What exactly did you disable, besides the udp/tcp small
servers and the finger services?

-jav
Re: why the Router still answer ? (to a ping or a tracert )
#2123
Author: Jon Gray
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 00:00
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Ping does not use TCP or UDP, nor does it have anything to do with Finger.
Ping uses ICMP, which is an IP Level protocol.  Any system that has an
active TCPIP stack loaded (DOS, Windows, Unix, MVS, etc) will respond to an
ICMP request with an ICMP reply.

Regards,

Jon Gray


emery wrote in message <35366875.0@news.iprolink.ch>...
>hello,
>
>I have done the config for two Router for a DMZ and  I have desactivate
UDP
>small server , tcp small serveur and no finger etc...
>
>and i was thincking he will not answer to a ping but he still answer.
>
>Can you tell me how I need to do to stop the reply ?
>because if he reply (My routeur) somebody can overload my router not thrue
?
>
>many thanks for your helps.
>
>Phil
>
>
Re: why the Router still answer ? (to a ping or a tracert )
#2124
Author: emery
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1998 00:00
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only this 3 things no finger services no udp small serveurs and no tcp
serveurs .
as I understand i should do a paquet filtering....with access-list i
believe.how exactly ?

best regards and thanks in advance

Phil.

PS : did you know a programme available on internet or to pay to test if my
router is secure ?

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Javier Henderson <Javier@Cisco.COM>
Groupes de discussion :
comp.dcom.sys.cisco,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,fa.cisco,fr.comp.securite
Date : jeudi, 16. avril 1998 23:54
Objet : Re: why the Router still answer ? (to a ping or a tracert )

>"emery" <emery-ph@iprolink.ch> writes:
>
>> I have done the config for two Router for a DMZ and  I have desactivate
UDP
>> small server , tcp small serveur and no finger etc...
>>
>> and i was thincking he will not answer to a ping but he still answer.
>
> What exactly did you disable, besides the udp/tcp small
>servers and the finger services?
>
>-jav

Javier Henderson a οΏ½crit dans le message <861zux4emc.fsf@limpia.kjsl.com>...
>"emery" <emery-ph@iprolink.ch> writes:
>
>> I have done the config for two Router for a DMZ and  I have desactivate
UDP
>> small server , tcp small serveur and no finger etc...
>>
>> and i was thincking he will not answer to a ping but he still answer.
>
> What exactly did you disable, besides the udp/tcp small
>servers and the finger services?
>
>-jav
Re: why the Router still answer ? (to a ping or a tracert )
#2125
Author: Lorenzo Cavallaro
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 1998 00:00
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In comp.protocols.tcp-ip emery <emery-ph@iprolink.ch> wrote:
: -----Message d'origine-----
: De : Javier Henderson <Javier@Cisco.COM>
: Groupes de discussion :
: comp.dcom.sys.cisco,comp.protocols.tcp-ip,fa.cisco,fr.comp.securite
: Date : jeudi, 16. avril 1998 23:54
: Objet : Re: why the Router still answer ? (to a ping or a tracert )

:>"emery" <emery-ph@iprolink.ch> writes:
:>
:>> I have done the config for two Router for a DMZ and  I have desactivate
: UDP
:>> small server , tcp small serveur and no finger etc...
:>>
:>> and i was thincking he will not answer to a ping but he still answer.
:>
:> What exactly did you disable, besides the udp/tcp small
:>servers and the finger services?
:>
:>-jav


First off Hello :)
I dunno if I have understood the question, but the router is still responding
to the ping,since ping program doesn't use tcp/udp protocol, but it uses
ICMP (Internet Message Controll Protocoll) message. Exactly it uses
the ICMP ECHO and ICMP ECHO REPLY messages to query (ping), the host.
So even if u disable all tcp/udp based stuff you're still able to ping it.

Bye all

Lorenzo
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