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On 7 Dec 1996 22:13:19 GMT, mouse
(email: mouse@mindsprint.com) posted:
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<<Typical UseNet self-annointing flame about someone else's opinion: SNIPPED>>

Ms. Mouse, you should really find out the difference between "opinion"
and "telling  facts".  I stated  the  fact that  CID is spoofable; Jay
stated the  "fact" that  it was  nonspoofable.    Now I backed  up  my
fact-telling  with    empirical  evidenece  while  Jay  gave    us the
theoretical reasons why  it's not spoofable.   His theory  didn't take
into account that the phone company may be  the one to do the spoofing
for us, or the cellular company.  As is done in practice.

>My experience (and ITS ONLY MY EXPERIENCE) with BellAtlantic Cellular
>is  that the caller ID  packet sent from my cell  phone when i make a
>call, is the  ID packet  sent to my  stop  by the last inbound  call.
>It's caused some  interesting situations as  i am dating several  ppl
>right now <giggle>  (yeah, they all know  about each other) One of my
>gentleman friends will  not answer the phone  if he doesn't recognize
>the ID.. but once call the ID number because i often called him after
>i spoke to the  other and he wondered  why  this number kept  calling
>him.  The funny thing is  that caller recognized the  name of the law
>firm when the  phone was answered...   and the two  of them ended  up
>meeting for happy  hour   that day.  <shutter>    Now i just  get  my
>secretary to call me prior to making a call to any of them.

There you go, baby.  You have just given us a solution to the problem.

So combining our wits we can trace back how a telemarketer may produce
a fake (and even a nonexistant) tel # to show up on people's Caller ID
boxes.

He  calls   himself collect using  Oncor:   He punches-in the 10-digit
"originating" number of his choice, then he punches-in the destination
number (which is his own cellular #).   Within seconds, his cell phone
rings, and the  "originating" #  he just punched-in  shows up  on  his
Caller ID (if  he has it  on his cellphone).   He doesn't even have to
answer the cell phone...

Now, according to Ms. Mouse, anybody he calls using his cellphone will
think  the  calls are coming from   the  faked-number ("originating" #
above).

And   that's  how it *can*  be   done  (in BellAtlantic-served areas).
Probably one of SEVERAL ways, too.

So everything is possible.  Even getting "PRIVATE" callers (*67ers) is
possible with a little creativity...

PL&H,
Ron