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Re: Telecommunications-Terminal-Equipment-Directive does not discuss EDTN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...

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From: Green Xenon [Radium]
Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 06:16
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Don Bowey wrote:
> On 9/28/07 9:12 PM, in article 46fdce2c$0$32511$4c368faf@roadrunner.com,
> "Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Don Bowey wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On 9/28/07 6:45 PM, in article 46fdabe3$0$7455$4c368faf@roadrunner.com,
>>>"Green Xenon [Radium]" <glucegen1@excite.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>If EDTN stood for �European Deaf Telephone Network�, then my search
>>>>http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22European+Deaf+Telephone+Network%22&b
>>>>tn
>>>>G=Google+Search
>>>>would describe how EDTN works and provide me with EDTN numbers which I
>>>>could dial so I could listen to EDTN tones from Switzerland!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>>>Why do you think that?
>>
>>Because usually it would. Not always but usually.
>>
>>
>>>>Sadly, EDTN does not stand for �European Deaf Telephone
>>>>Network� when relating to textphone terminology.
>>
>>>No, but I found a good reference to European Deaf Telephone (EDT).
>>
>>Thanks but I already know about EDT. What does EDTN stand for?
>>
>>
>>>>Dial 1-800-543-1586 and you'll hear the American TDD tones I am talking
>>>>about. This is an example of a TDD number used in the United States. I
>>>>want to hear the Swiss-equivalent of TDD.
>>
>>>According to what I found, the Swiss use the ETN protocol of V.18.  Here is
>>>a list you might want:
>>>
>>>    �    Baudot @ 45.45 baud (U.S. TTYs)
>>>    �    Baudot @ 50 baud (used in England, Australia, and some other
>>>         countries; also known as "international" Baudot)
>>>    �    V.21/text telephone version (used in Sweden, Norway, and Finland).
>>>    �    DTMF (used in Denmark, Holland, and some other countries)
>>>    �    EDT ("European Deaf Telephone," used in Germany, Austria,
>>>         Switzerland, and several other countries)
>>
>>Thanks but I already knew all of the above. I would like to know what
>>EDTN stands for. Why does a simple question have to get so complicated?
>>
>>
>>>>What modulation scheme does EDTN use? FSK? QAM? Something else? What?


> Why are you still asking this, 

I am not.

> when you now say all you want to know is the
> meaning of EDTN?  You have been given the essential parts to know the
> answers.

No I haven't been given the essential parts.

>>>
>>>If you would apply yourself, you could know all.......
>>>
>>>Maybe you should look for a terminal program that is compatible with the
>>>protocols in the list.  Then you could listen to them all you wish.  Just
>>>don't come back here asking us to find it for you.
>>
>>I've tried asking www.madsci.org which always rejects my EDTN questions.
>>I've also tried asking www.allexperts.com which often respond with "This
>>is out of my expertise".
>>
>>After doing my own toilsome research and even asking those so-called
>>"experts", I am still not able to find what the EDTN acronym stands for.


> Perhaps it is because you want the answer to be phrased a certain way, and
> you are unwilling to see it in it's parts.

I strongly doubt that. I think the answer is there somewhere [1 out of 
10-the-power-10-billion places] but it is extremely difficult to find 
because there aren't enough sources to make this answer readily 
available. This due to the fact that I am one of the extremely small 
minorities of the human population who is actually-interested in EDTN. 
The majority simply don't care.

Or [and equally anger-causing for me], the EDTN is a company secret. 
Those sick f--ks who make up the company that designed EDTN want to keep 
EDTN classified so that no regular person knows about what it "codes" 
for or how it works.

I suspect it's probably something that company is going to keep secret 
from us. Sick f---scums.

Usually with protocols like EDTN -- where there isn't much info, I might 
suspect that someone [or a lot of someones] is/are attempting to cover 
up a type of technology.

I then get extremely curious angry and want to forcibly get information 
as to how what the EDTN stands for and how it works and possible EDTN 
phone numbers. I want to torture the designers -- into providing me the 
information. Its only human nature to want something you know you can't 
have.

I am so upset now that I want to find whoever designed EDTN and force 
them [at oxy-acetylene-blowtorch point] to provide me with information 
regarding what EDTN stands for [in relation to textphones], technical 
specs of EDTN, and EDTN phones numbers of Switzerland. If they refuse, 
I'd like to scorch their skins until they are white and foamy like the 
foam produce by heating Parmasen cheese to sizzling point.

>>This is why my posts are not so polite.
> 
> 
> That is a poor excuse.  I asked a doctor friend about AS.....  It should be
> within your ability to control yourself better.  

This ain't much -- if anything -- to do with AS. I was just in an 
extremely bad mood.
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Subject: Re: Telecommunications-Terminal-Equipment-Directive does not discuss
 EDTN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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